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vector2 08-22-2007 01:14 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
I'm pretty sure 'pokerlife654' on stars/ 'magiowins' on full tilt is a scammer. He pasted in an instant message a supposed email from full tilt saying that his transfer to me was pending after I transferred $135 to him on stars (with the intent of doing another $135 if the first one was successfull). I emailed full tilt confirming if his pasted information was legit and they said it was not. His AIM username is pokerislife689 and his claimed 2p2 username is frommagio.

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The info he pasted in AIM after I sent him money on stars:

This is an automated message sent from Full Tilt Poker. Your Player ID: magiowins Date and Time: 2007-08-20 16:47:32 Transfer Number: 10B0CC0D Transfer To: me Amount: $135.00 Status: PROCESSINGYour transfer request has been received. Processing of your transfer request may take between 24-48 hours.For further assistance, please visit our website at: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/payprocess.php or contact cashier@fulltiltpoker.com.Thank you for playing at Full Tilt Poker

This is an automated message sent from Full Tilt Poker. Your Player ID: magiowins Date and Time: 2007-08-20 16:50:17 Transfer Number: 13B0CE0D Transfer To: me Amount: $135.00 Status: PROCESSINGYour transfer request has been received. Processing of your transfer request may take between 24-48 hours.For further assistance, please visit our website at: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/payprocess.php or contact cashier@fulltiltpoker.com.Thank you for playing at Full Tilt Poker
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FT's response when I asked them about said transactions:

Hello vector2,

Thank you for providing us with this information.

We can confirm that the messages you have received were not sent from Full Tilt Poker, and do not reflect any recent transactions to or from your account.

At this time, we request that you provide us with the email address that this message originated from, as well as any additional information so that we can investigate the situation further and take the appropriate actions with the account responsible.

As a precautionary measure, we ask that you please change the password on your account to ensure your security as well.

We appreciate your bringing this matter to our attention, and we look forward to your reply.

Regards,

Chris A
Security and Fraud
Full Tilt Poker

edfurlong 08-22-2007 01:19 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Shame you didn't make sure to get him to pm you from his two plus two account. You guys seem to love to make it easy on this dude.

cardman 08-22-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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Looking to transfer $270 from Stars to FT. PM me (or AIM: *******) if you've been registered here for at least 6 months to 1 year or if you have more than 1 reference.

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Don't post your AIM. Initial contact should be by 2+2 PM then exchange your AIM names through 2+2 PM. Otherwise you'll get scammers impersonating 2+2ers AIMing you.

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WTF? I thought you read my post already and got my warning. See link:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11750237

Minn_pokerplyr 08-22-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Ya DO NOT POST Aim names, it's just stupid.

cardman 08-22-2007 01:53 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
I posted the warning like a few minutes after your transfer request post with your AIM name. Didn't you read it?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11750237

BackedUp 08-22-2007 04:02 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
[ QUOTE ]
I need PS.
I have FT and Cake.
I need 2500ish.
I had several successful trades in the last thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

Still need it.

Mike Haven 08-22-2007 07:39 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
I would assume that now he has moved into the realm of forging details of FTP e-mails for criminal purposes then his name at FTP is not magiowins.

FTP won't like this one little bit, and when they ask Stars for the rl details of pokerlife654 he'll be toast, in more ways than one.

polyviewness 08-22-2007 09:56 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
want 1k - 1.5k on pokerstars for tilt. will not send first unless with regular poster and known poster.

pm me

Minn_pokerplyr 08-22-2007 02:03 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would assume that now he has moved into the realm of forging details of FTP e-mails for criminal purposes then his name at FTP is not magiowins.

FTP won't like this one little bit, and when they ask Stars for the rl details of pokerlife654 he'll be toast, in more ways than one.

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Ya and then pokerlife can sue Pokerstars for giving out personal information. Would be pretty stupid for stars to get involved. Regardless we don't know whether the person is even telling the truth.

Mike Haven 08-22-2007 03:38 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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I would assume that now he has moved into the realm of forging details of FTP e-mails for criminal purposes then his name at FTP is not magiowins.

FTP won't like this one little bit, and when they ask Stars for the rl details of pokerlife654 he'll be toast, in more ways than one.

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Ya and then pokerlife can sue Pokerstars for giving out personal information. Would be pretty stupid for stars to get involved. Regardless we don't know whether the person is even telling the truth.

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Where do you think you would sue Pokerstars and under what law?

Minn_pokerplyr 08-22-2007 03:46 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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[ QUOTE ]
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I would assume that now he has moved into the realm of forging details of FTP e-mails for criminal purposes then his name at FTP is not magiowins.

FTP won't like this one little bit, and when they ask Stars for the rl details of pokerlife654 he'll be toast, in more ways than one.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ya and then pokerlife can sue Pokerstars for giving out personal information. Would be pretty stupid for stars to get involved. Regardless we don't know whether the person is even telling the truth.

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Where do you think you would sue Pokerstars and under what law?

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Under whatever negligence laws of the jurisdiction in which they reside. The laws overseas happen to me much harsher then here in the states.

Mopisgood 08-22-2007 03:53 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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I would assume that now he has moved into the realm of forging details of FTP e-mails for criminal purposes then his name at FTP is not magiowins.

FTP won't like this one little bit, and when they ask Stars for the rl details of pokerlife654 he'll be toast, in more ways than one.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ya and then pokerlife can sue Pokerstars for giving out personal information. Would be pretty stupid for stars to get involved. Regardless we don't know whether the person is even telling the truth.

[/ QUOTE ]

Where do you think you would sue Pokerstars and under what law?

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Under whatever negligence laws of the jurisdiction in which they reside. The laws overseas happen to me much harsher then here in the states.

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Yeah,um....good luck finding a lawyer willing to take this case. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

d0nkaments 08-22-2007 09:30 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. *DELETED*
 
Post deleted by Mike Haven

BackedUp 08-22-2007 10:34 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Just did a successful swap with Tsunami11 for 1300. Went very smooth. Thanks again man.

Tsunami11 08-22-2007 10:34 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
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I need PS.
I have FT and Cake.
I need 2500ish.
I had several successful trades in the last thread.

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Still need it.

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Just traded 1300 on Stars for FTP with Backedup. I sent first and everything went fine. Thanks again

Butcho22 08-22-2007 10:44 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
I need $100 (balla) on FTP, can trade stars, will send first with reputable poster.

pm plz

limitninja 08-23-2007 12:20 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
Hey guys, have money on absolute poker, need pokerstars.
will pay good vig. Please pm me

thanks

Clamper13 08-23-2007 12:40 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
[ QUOTE ]
I need $100 (balla) on FTP, can trade stars, will send first with reputable poster.

pm plz

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PM sent

defixated 08-23-2007 02:38 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
Want: $1k+ on Stars
Have: Full Tilt

Acknowledge my recent reg date and low post count but can offer a telephone contact and possibly a reference from a 7000+ poster if I can reach him at this hour.

Edit: am trading off hesitancy about transfers and associated risks against not putting my ssn into Stars Echeck facility.

bonsaltron 08-23-2007 04:37 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
Looking to trade $175 on Pokerstars for $175 on FTP. Any takers? IM me on ***

Bad Beat Maker 08-23-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
Looking for someone to transfer money from Absolute Poker to Full Tilt. Thanks.

I've done trades with Gildwulf and Starvs.

-PS NOT A LARGE AMOUNT!

baronzeus 08-23-2007 10:16 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
have: full tilt
want: 5K on AP or UB, either one is fine. if ive never heard of you, you probably send first

Bad Beat Maker 08-23-2007 10:17 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
I messaged you on Baronzeus before you even posted this!

baronzeus 08-23-2007 10:30 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
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I messaged you on Baronzeus before you even posted this!

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lol you were being weird over aim thought you were a railbird stalker

Bad Beat Maker 08-23-2007 10:32 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
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I messaged you on Baronzeus before you even posted this!

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lol you were being weird over aim thought you were a railbird stalker

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lol i know. i msged u one time drunk asking about that chick in ur thread a few weeks back. anyways ill msg u back

baronzeus 08-23-2007 10:33 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
respond to my PM im not on AIM

Clamper13 08-23-2007 11:01 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
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Looking to trade $175 on Pokerstars for $175 on FTP. Any takers? IM me on ***

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PM sent

stereo 08-23-2007 11:12 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
can do 100$ fultilt for stars

polyviewness 08-23-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
hi all looking for any amount up to 1k on stars for tilt.
pm me

spazn 08-23-2007 12:27 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
Hello,
I've discovered this forum by a french forum and I'd like to trade up to 800$ from FULL TILT POKER to PokerStars.
However, I rather not to send first because I've been scammed twice already.

Thanks.

teddyFBI 08-23-2007 01:05 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
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...I rather not to send first because I've been scammed twice already.
Thanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

The scammer's motto...

Clamper13 08-23-2007 01:17 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hello,
I've discovered this forum by a french forum and I'd like to trade up to 800$ from FULL TILT POKER to PokerStars.
However, I rather not to send first because I've been scammed twice already.

Thanks.

[/ QUOTE ]

Welcome to 2+2.

Since you're new here, you'll likely find it difficult obtaining a partner who will send first.

There are reliable folks here. There are also scammers, so be very cautious.

Before you transfer any funds to anybody, do this!

I suggest that you pay special attention to the first post in this thread, and acquaint yourself with the names of people on the most recent alleged scammers list.

Next, take a look here for trading tips.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post11288176

Lastly, If you are contacted by anyone offering to trade with you, post their 2+2 name here. You'll likely get one of the veteran traders here to offer some feedback or additional advice.

BackedUp 08-23-2007 06:43 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
Still need stars.
I have FTP.
I have around 1450 and will do any amount over 100 up to that.
PM me.

AKingdom 08-23-2007 06:44 PM

Re: Person to person transfers. [OP is a \"must read\".]
 
Have: poker.com
Want: fulltilt or party

frommagio 08-23-2007 08:56 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Thanks to Mike Haven, who alerted me to this message in the transfers thread. There is a scammer who is apparently using my 2+2 name - 'magiowins' on FTP. I have no idea who this is, but it's certainly not me.

Many readers of this forum will recall that I have posted many times, indicating that I would never, ever open an account on FTP due to their unacceptable lack of respect for their customers. My opinion has not changed. By the way, while the topic is open, let me encourage all of you to insist on higher standards from the companies that you do business with.

Anyway, please avoid this scammer (magiowins on FTP); and while you're at it, let me encourage you to please avoid FTP. If we all insisted on dealing with nothing but ethical companies, then we would have more ethical companies to choose from.

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I'm pretty sure 'pokerlife654' on stars/ 'magiowins' on full tilt is a scammer. He pasted in an instant message a supposed email from full tilt saying that his transfer to me was pending after I transferred $135 to him on stars (with the intent of doing another $135 if the first one was successfull). I emailed full tilt confirming if his pasted information was legit and they said it was not. His AIM username is pokerislife689 and his claimed 2p2 username is frommagio.

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The info he pasted in AIM after I sent him money on stars:

This is an automated message sent from Full Tilt Poker. Your Player ID: magiowins Date and Time: 2007-08-20 16:47:32 Transfer Number: 10B0CC0D Transfer To: me Amount: $135.00 Status: PROCESSINGYour transfer request has been received. Processing of your transfer request may take between 24-48 hours.For further assistance, please visit our website at: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/payprocess.php or contact cashier@fulltiltpoker.com.Thank you for playing at Full Tilt Poker

This is an automated message sent from Full Tilt Poker. Your Player ID: magiowins Date and Time: 2007-08-20 16:50:17 Transfer Number: 13B0CE0D Transfer To: me Amount: $135.00 Status: PROCESSINGYour transfer request has been received. Processing of your transfer request may take between 24-48 hours.For further assistance, please visit our website at: http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/payprocess.php or contact cashier@fulltiltpoker.com.Thank you for playing at Full Tilt Poker
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FT's response when I asked them about said transactions:

Hello vector2,

Thank you for providing us with this information.

We can confirm that the messages you have received were not sent from Full Tilt Poker, and do not reflect any recent transactions to or from your account.

At this time, we request that you provide us with the email address that this message originated from, as well as any additional information so that we can investigate the situation further and take the appropriate actions with the account responsible.

As a precautionary measure, we ask that you please change the password on your account to ensure your security as well.

We appreciate your bringing this matter to our attention, and we look forward to your reply.

Regards,

Chris A
Security and Fraud
Full Tilt Poker

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BackedUp 08-23-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
I just finished a trade with bigslicknuts for 200. I sent first and he sent back very quickly. Thanks again man.

BackedUp 08-23-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Still need 1250ish on Stars for FTP. PM me.

j9neverlose 08-23-2007 11:15 PM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
Can anyone transfer 200 stars to me for 200 fulltilt?

bigslicknuts 08-24-2007 12:33 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
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I just finished a trade with bigslicknuts for 200. I sent first and he sent back very quickly. Thanks again man.

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same for Backedup, very easy to do the trade with..

limitninja 08-24-2007 12:55 AM

Re: Person to person transfers.
 
still need pokerstars for ap, anyone ??


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