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Dustin,

You suck at villaging.

Discuss.

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Shorty

please respond to some of my other posts about you

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also, with 100% knowledge that kbar is a wolf i do not fail to address him on day 1. however, it is true i often do not end up voting him.

you don't learn anything if everyone votes kbar, or everyone votes luckayluck. you just don't.

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Dustin,

You suck at villaging.

Discuss.

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Shorty

please respond to some of my other posts about you

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Post them again, I generally just tune you out when I think you're a villager.

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also,

since when have you been a big believer in dual wagons?

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ever?

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basically, you're saying that you never mentioned Kbar once because you felt that we had a handle on it, even though you thought he was the wolfiest player, and that you tried to push a bunch of other people (all likely villagers) for dual-wagon purposes, not caring about how that would make you look when Kbar turned up wolf (which you would have thought likely of course)?

Is this what you're saying?

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someone please explain to me how Neil aka Kenny was able to peek both Nez AND Luckay on night 0?

Kenny said to not lynch Nez, but also that Luckay was a wolf (which he was). This was all said on day one, but is not possible. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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hi Bravos,

I'm going to try and pretend like i wasn't all over you yesterday, and to let you try and be a villager today.

Neil peeked Luckay.

He did not peek Nez. There is no room for debate on this.

I still believe that this is irrelevant because Nez is a villager.

What else to do you think?

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I also feel that Nez is a vilager, but we can not be 100% sure. Several people have stated that Nez MUST be a villager and that Neil cleared him.

My short list right now is:

LC
Shorty
Clown

Your thoughts on clown?

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I think the question was rhetorical or perhaps he was just typing his thoughts. Considering he suspected you both, you think the goal of his question was..?

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To be villagery (I think). Shortline asks rhetorical/open-ended questions about nk's and wolf combos all the time as a wolf. Kyro in pogglesworth (I believe) used it when everyone cleared him of being villager, and shortline pointed it out to me that game as something he did specifically. And that question just reminds me of all the open-ended crap that shortline says as a wolf (but like never does as villager).

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im back
gonna catch up

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also,

since when have you been a big believer in dual wagons?

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ever?

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basically, you're saying that you never mentioned Kbar once because you felt that we had a handle on it, even though you thought he was the wolfiest player, and that you tried to push a bunch of other people (all likely villagers) for dual-wagon purposes, not caring about how that would make you look when Kbar turned up wolf (which you would have thought likely of course)?

Is this what you're saying?

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100%, except not for the "likely villagers" part, especially since I spent most of my time voting Luckay and a seer. I don't care how it makes me look, because I trust villages to figure it out. I'm just too trusting, obviously.

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Bravos,

Do you think LC and Shorty can be wolves together? Or thats thats likely?

If its not likely, you need to vote for one you think if more likely evil today.

I think Clown is a villager but hes not getting lynched today so I'm going to get into great detail explaining why. But basically, he hasn't tried to act villagery, and he had some villagery posts at the end of D1 and beginning of D2.

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Shortline, there's a difference between dual wagon purposes and getting information from pushes. Did you really want me or someone else to be a legitimate dual wagon for kbar/luckay?

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I don't care how it makes me look, because I trust villages to figure it out. I'm just too trusting, obviously.

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Clear lies. I'm not saying this is a wolfy lie, mind you, but this is utter crap.

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I wonder if I could be "bothered" to vote shorty?

shortline

VR and Nez, if Dustin hasn't become a virtual locked villager in your eyes, there is no such thing.

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Shortline, there's a difference between dual wagon purposes and getting information from pushes. Did you really want me or someone else to be a legitimate dual wagon for kbar/luckay?

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I will let you guys in on a little secret.

When I'm a wolf, I'm an unbelievably paranoid wolf. You can ask anyone I wolf with. I always worry I've been peeked. I can only be this relaxed when I know that we have a two wolf lead and, even if you lynch me, I get to laugh at everyone later.

And go read Fishmonger's Mafia #1. Even if two wolves basically out themselves on the first day, I don't let them go down easy.

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Shorty,

you were voting Luckay after Neil made his peek post, so lets not use that as your defense, and it was before Luckay had even posted ffs

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Shorty,

you were voting Luckay after Neil made his peek post, so lets not use that as your defense, and it was before Luckay had even posted ffs

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I have NEVER - EVER - started a long wolf game voting another wolf. (another secret!)

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Shortline, there's a difference between dual wagon purposes and getting information from pushes. Did you really want me or someone else to be a legitimate dual wagon for kbar/luckay?

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no, but i wanted to see if anyone would bite. wolves would normally be scared to bite there knowing the #1 wagon would come up evil. except luckay, but he probably knew he was going down anyway.

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I will let you guys in on a little secret.

When I'm a wolf, I'm an unbelievably paranoid wolf. You can ask anyone I wolf with. I always worry I've been peeked. I can only be this relaxed when I know that we have a two wolf lead and, even if you lynch me, I get to laugh at everyone later.

And go read Fishmonger's Mafia #1. Even if two wolves basically out themselves on the first day, I don't let them go down easy.

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So, now maybe you can answer why you voted me in ALL CAPS and then a few minutes later moved to Luckay when I asked why you weren't voting for the guy you had voted twice before he had even posted.

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Shorty,

you were voting Luckay after Neil made his peek post, so lets not use that as your defense, and it was before Luckay had even posted ffs

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I have NEVER - EVER - started a long wolf game voting another wolf. (another secret!)

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great

again,
Neil says "if im the seer I peeked Luckay", then you start voting Luckay before he posts, then you push Neil at the end of the day, then you claim at the start of D2 you knew Neil was the seer, then you claim its 50/50 he peeked Luckay vs Nez while pushing for LC to get lynched

seriously, you need to die hardcore

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trust me, if i wanted a legitimate other wagon, i would have gone about it differently.

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anyway, i gotta go eat dinner. don't majority me until you're ready to think.

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trust me, if i wanted a legitimate other wagon, i would have gone about it differently.

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I'm on top of your wolf list today? Explain.

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[0] bojtun voted for shortline99
[0] bravos1
[0] Bulletproof Monk
[1] clowntable voted for Nez477
[0] DustinG voted for shortline99
[0] fishmonger voted for clowntable
[0] fmxda voted for shortline99
[0] fnord_too
[0] GetThere1Time voted for lastchance
[2] lastchance
[1] Nez477 voted for shortline99
[0] Nicholasp27 voted for shortline99
[0] ScottHoward v3.1
<font color="red"> [5] shortline99 voted for lastchance </font>
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine
[0] VoraciousReader

<font color="green"> 10:00 No good </font>
Majority Lynch = 9

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I will let you guys in on a little secret.

When I'm a wolf, I'm an unbelievably paranoid wolf. You can ask anyone I wolf with. I always worry I've been peeked. I can only be this relaxed when I know that we have a two wolf lead and, even if you lynch me, I get to laugh at everyone later.

And go read Fishmonger's Mafia #1. Even if two wolves basically out themselves on the first day, I don't let them go down easy.

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please stop acting like you could have saved Kbar and Luckay, because you tried and failed.

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There's no way in hell shortline could have saved Luckay. As for kbar, I will say that I'm not sure.

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There's no way in hell shortline could have saved Luckay. As for kbar, I will say that I'm not sure.

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Not sure?

He VOTED KILL KENNY RFN and no one budged.

He wanted to LYNCH BOJTUN and no one budged.

And then he got stuck on Luckay because I told him to.

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Grabbed a sammich.

Everyone should be listing suspects other than me, because this conversation is going to make it very easy for the wolves to hide later.

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Dustin,

You suck at villaging.

Discuss.

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Shorty

You suck at being helpful while villaging

I mean, I understand 100% what Dustinn is thinking

You somehow think you deserve special treatment sometimes

And you don't when you play like this

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The only person I'd be REALLY suspicious of if they ended up voting me is GT1T. He absolutely knows better. Everyone else, well, people make mistakes.

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Also, I meant to say that I 100% understand Dustin's thought process because he writes it down and is helpful

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trust me, if i wanted a legitimate other wagon, i would have gone about it differently.

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I'm on top of your wolf list today? Explain.

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There's no way in hell shortline could have saved Luckay. As for kbar, I will say that I'm not sure.

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I think he tried and failed.

There just weren't any other wagons that people were going to bite on. He tried Fmx, but thats a cop-out lynch and most people realized that.

And he tried Neil, but Neil was pretty villagery.

And he tried you, and he tried Bojtun, but it just wasnt going to happen.

Shorty,

if you were a wolf (hypothetically), who would you have pushed to save Kbar?

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Dustin,

You suck at villaging.

Discuss.

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Shorty

You suck at being helpful while villaging

I mean, I understand 100% what Dustinn is thinking

You somehow think you deserve special treatment sometimes

And you don't when you play like this

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I'm better late game than early game. And with my track record of finding wolves late game, I don't like trying to sit back on day 1 and day 2 (like I announced I would do) and then becoming the lead lynch on day 3.

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VR and Nez, if Dustin hasn't become a virtual locked villager in your eyes, there is no such thing.

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JESUS

That is so incorrect it's not close

Dustin is so far from clear here

Leaning villager, but damn, he posts tons as a wolf and works really hard as any role

So don't give him that much credit yet

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The only person I'd be REALLY suspicious of if they ended up voting me is GT1T. He absolutely knows better. Everyone else, well, people make mistakes.

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Shorty,

did you say earlier today that since we off to a nice head start it didn't matter if you got lynched?

Why all of a sudden are you caring so much now that your wagon has taken off?

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I'm not voting shorty today

It's dumb

If he's a villager he will help us out later or the wolves kill him

If he's a wolf we'll lynch him on a later date

Let's lynch someone else

Like fishmonger

Dustin, you have to agree with this

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I think he tried and failed.

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lol. that's not me trying.

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He tried Fmx, but thats a cop-out lynch and most people realized that.

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I think I said fmxda was a villager.

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And he tried Neil, but Neil was pretty villagery.

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not true.

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And he tried you, and he tried Bojtun, but it just wasnt going to happen.

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and then i tried luckay, even though as a wolf i knew i could never use that to clear myself.

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Shorty,

if you were a wolf (hypothetically), who would you have pushed to save Kbar?

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someone a lot earlier, and a lot harder.

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no

Shorty is ridiculously wolfy and should die.

and I'm not sure about Fish yet but there was something I saw from yesterday I think that made me lean village.

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strange things are happening in this game right now

im going to take a shower, maybe read a book for a little bit

but i'll be back ofc

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Even though I am still suspicious of lastchance being so sure on kbar day 1 (after all, there were like 14 villagers, and not all of them were so sold on kbar's wolfiness, including me), the two people who are the most lynchable today are lastchance and shortline. (side order of supine and clowntable).

The game to date is a much more plausible village game for lastchance than shortline. Shortline's tone was simply off from the start, and even if shorty's changing gears for this game, I just don't see him being village here.

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The only person I'd be REALLY suspicious of if they ended up voting me is GT1T. He absolutely knows better. Everyone else, well, people make mistakes.

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Shorty,

did you say earlier today that since we off to a nice head start it didn't matter if you got lynched?

Why all of a sudden are you caring so much now that your wagon has taken off?

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because:

1) i never die easy.

2) it's not optimal to lynch me on day 3 in this situation. it's a dumb way to start wasting a head start.

3) i have nothing else to do but stop you from voting me, really.



Go compare my posting right now to Average Speed X. Durron enters the game, utilizes his superdeedooper read on my wolf game and tries to get me lynched. Eventually he succeeds. What a retard. Also, notice dmk jumps on my wagon, even though he should know I'm a villager, and I call him out on it hardcore.

dmk was a wolf.

if GT1T votes me in this game, he is a wolf.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...art=16&amp;vc=1