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i think lastchance should 100% be the lynch today over luckayluck for reasons having everything to do with his conversations with kbar and the fact that i got some sort of nebulous feeling that creeped me out enough about him last night, though i don't remember what it was.

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and this is just weird and why wouldn't we lynch a peeked wolf?

Earlier on D2, Shorty basically just ignored the fact that Neil peeked Luckay, saying that Luckay was a good vote for other reasons (like he wants to take credit for Luckay being evil independently of the peek)

But then he wants to push LC > Luckay which seems reasonable because its important to get villagers lynched.

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Shorty,

Are you saying you think I was Kenny's peek and not Luckay?

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it's a possibility. 50/50.

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I dont believe that Shorty believes this for at all.<u> I think village-Shorty has a definitive opinion one way or the other, and therefore this post is extremely wolfy</u>

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so LC at the start of yesterday wanted to vote Luckay w/o realizing that Neil peeked him. Thats pretty villagery.

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People I don't want to lynch today:
DustinG
Nez
Scott
Bojtun
Supine? (yes, supine).

Not only have those people voted kbar, they were also fairly villagery for most of the day.

And interestingly enough, my top wolf candidate is Luckay.

Also, seriously, why the hell am I getting votes here?

Reasons why Luckay may be a wolf:
He didn't defend kbar at the end of the day at all (despite saying he would, and I feel, he would do it a bit more should he have been a villager). He also didn't post a Luckay-like d1, IMHO (one that's even remotely entertaining).

Other random person who I feel is more likely to be wolfia than normal:
SpacaB

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[0] bojtun
[0] bravos1
[0] Bulletproof Monk
[1] clowntable voted for shortline99
[0] DustinG voted for shortline99
[0] fishmonger voted for clowntable
[0] fmxda voted for shortline99
[0] fnord_too
[0] GetThere1Time voted for lastchance
[3] lastchance
[0] Nez477 voted for lastchance
[0] Nicholasp27 voted for shortline99
[0] ScottHoward v3.1
<font color="red"> [4] shortline99 voted for lastchance </font>
[0] SpacaB
[0] Supine
[0] VoraciousReader

<font color="green"> 10:00 No good </font>
Majority Lynch = 9

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Even after Chuckles asks LC if he read yesterday and LC says he skimmed, LC still makes the below two posts.

Could he do it as a wolf? Sure.

Is Lastchance a wolf? No.

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Neil probably peeked Nez.

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Ok, never mind. No, he didn't. And I somehow missed the joke seer hint from Neil to Luckay? I rule.

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Smell,

Nich is now voting Shorty

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Smell,

Nich is now voting Shorty

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you're right?...

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shortline/kbar/clown/monk/(utr)?

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all, im currently going through kennys posts. the above would kinda conflict with him peeking luckay as a wolf imo.
there was also an early post where he replied to luckay in a manner that wouldnt indicate he peeked luckay as a wolf.

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DUH

which is why he made the nez post

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more Shorty wolfiness

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Smell,

Nich is now voting Shorty

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you're right?...

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I see, its Nez voting LC and not Nich

sorry

Nez,

you really need to be voting Shorty

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On the two posts that shorty made, 50/50 --&gt; Duh, Nez is the peek:
It feels like a minor inconsistency (which traz told me was wolfy from shortline). Shortline changes his mind here a little, but we don't see it. There are two hours between that post, but saying DUH (to everyone else) is, IMHO, wolfy after you think Luckay might be the peek. And obviously, shortline's missing the stuff where Neil votes Nez early in his arguments.

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I want to vote shortline, but I'm skurred. The people voting him make me nervous.

Dustin, really.

Are you a wolf? You can tell me. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] you much anyway.

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I think the 50/50 is really wolfy because I just dont think Shorty would think that way. I think he would have opinion one way or the other, and that he was just trying to get anyone but Luckay lynched yesterday- while still calling Luckay evil.

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I want to vote shortline, but I'm skurred. The people voting him make me nervous.

Dustin, really.

Are you a wolf? You can tell me. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] you much anyway.

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Awwww.

But come on VR. While I probably am pretty much forced to jump all over Kbar D1 for being so wolfy (as a wolf), I'm not one, and the arguments I'm putting forth about Shorty are pretty good.

Don't be afraid to get on the main wagon.

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if you were a wolf, you'd be trying to kill lastchance today

unless you're both wolves

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VR,

you were pretty set on LC being evil regardless of Kbar's status D1 (and the consensus was if Kbar is evil LC is more likely evil). But by yesterday you seemed to reverse on that and today the same, but you still think maybe I'm evil.

plz to be explaining yourself.

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so I'm pretty much finished with my reread but I did skim a little from the end of last night.

I'm very confident that Shorty is evil, and I may or may not have some secret wolves im going to not talk about but keep an eye on- either way, I think Shorty dies a wolf and we probably lynch some villagers in the following days.

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i now think that neither shorty nor lc are wolves

thoughts?

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i now think that neither shorty nor lc are wolves

thoughts?

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i think if you peeked shorty that was that was a mistake

otherwise I dont know why you think it

if you peeked a wolf who is voting for shorty you need to tell us who it is

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dustin

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now we're having some real fun

also, I was wondering why my D1 predication hadn't come true

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i now think that neither shorty nor lc are wolves

thoughts?

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i think if you peeked shorty that was that was a mistake

otherwise I dont know why you think it

if you peeked a wolf who is voting for shorty you need to tell us who it is

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what

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plz to be explaining yourself Nez (i do know why you're voting me, i think)

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i now think that neither shorty nor lc are wolves

thoughts?

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i think if you peeked shorty that was that was a mistake

otherwise I dont know why you think it

if you peeked a wolf who is voting for shorty you need to tell us who it is

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what

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explain yourself please

why dont you think shorty or lc are evil?

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I'm just messin Dustin

I really hate that my reads are being so swayed by you when I don't really know your role though

Like, I was 95% on LC rereading yesterday

And also, sorry I've been so sporatic with my posts, ridiculous work day today

Shorty

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Theory:
Wolves kill kenny because of the "if i'm seer" post and to clear nez at the same time.
Discuss

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He's a good second wagon. I could also settle for a VR wagon.

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someone please explain to me how Neil aka Kenny was able to peek both Nez AND Luckay on night 0?

Kenny said to not lynch Nez, but also that Luckay was a wolf (which he was). This was all said on day one, but is not possible. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Clown could never be this inventive or wrong as a wolf here btw

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Theory:
Wolves kill kenny because of the "if i'm seer" post and to clear nez at the same time.
Discuss

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that doesn't explain why Kenny got killed N1 instead of N2, since it really doesn't make a difference

and nobody is peeking Nez after D1 anyways

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Well now he'll just never die because everyone assumes he's cleared. That's exactly why they killed kenny n1 instead of N2.

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the question is, with luckay and lastchance on the same team, wouldn't they try a little more FPS? is it possible for them both to be wolves?

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This is a horribly wolfy post coming from shortline, IMHO. Shortline doesn't ask open-ended questions here. On top of that, he completely brushes this aside to push me and Luckay both being wolves for the rest of the day.

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It's very obvious he still suspects you in this post. I'm pretty sure his vote is still on you at this point too. So what's your point? You think he was a wolf waiting for someone to come in and say "No way they could be wolves together!" highly doubtful



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Also, Chuckles basically said "If I'm seer, LC is a villager."
Chuckles is dead.
Anyone want to draw the conclusion?

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Facts:
-One seer is dead
-Two wolves are dead
-No peeks on N1
-LC is probably getting lynched real soon

Anyone want to draw the conclusion?

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someone please explain to me how Neil aka Kenny was able to peek both Nez AND Luckay on night 0?

Kenny said to not lynch Nez, but also that Luckay was a wolf (which he was). This was all said on day one, but is not possible. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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hi Bravos,

I'm going to try and pretend like i wasn't all over you yesterday, and to let you try and be a villager today.

Neil peeked Luckay.

He did not peek Nez. There is no room for debate on this.

I still believe that this is irrelevant because Nez is a villager.

What else to do you think?

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Gt1T,

Have you read any of my posts on Shorty today?

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I'm going through them now.

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Killing chuckles is idiotic for me, and actually for most people, considering what he asked me on d2. I'm not wasting time killing someone who has almost no chance to be the seer especially to save my arse. (and it's a really FPS way of doing it, too).

My point is that shortline doesn't ask open-ended questions. Of course he still suspects me and Luckay, but shortline doesn't ask questions that he doesn't know the answer to, and he doesn't ask questions that lead to a contradictory viewpoint from what he's pushing.

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Fact:

If you lynch me over the other people still alive, the village will lose this game.

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Well now he'll just never die because everyone assumes he's cleared. That's exactly why they killed kenny n1 instead of N2.

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This is similar to the question I had..

Do we assume that LuckayLuck was peeked night 0, or Nez night 0? It can not be both. We killed Luckay and he indeed was a wolf. So if Luckay was indeed peeked, we really have no idea what role Nez has.

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Fact:

If you lynch me over the other people still alive, the village will lose this game.

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Die wolf.

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Killing chuckles is idiotic for me, and actually for most people, considering what he asked me on d2. I'm not wasting time killing someone who has almost no chance to be the seer especially to save my arse. (and it's a really FPS way of doing it, too).

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And luckay would never kill Neil as a wolf.

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My point is that shortline doesn't ask open-ended questions. Of course he still suspects me and Luckay, but shortline doesn't ask questions that he doesn't know the answer to, and he doesn't ask questions that lead to a contradictory viewpoint from what he's pushing.

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I think the question was rhetorical or perhaps he was just typing his thoughts. Considering he suspected you both, you think the goal of his question was..?

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Dustin,

You suck at villaging.

Discuss.