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Xylocain 11-11-2007 01:22 AM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
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Hand #5
Absolute Poker $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 5 players

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, <font color="#FF0000">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">UTG bets</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.00 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

River: (10.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 12.00 BB

Results:
Button mucks Kc, Th.
Hero shows 4d, 3d (Two Pair, sevens and fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.70 BB.

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fold preflop. check fold the river. i can't believe that guy called you with king high.


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lol [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Harv72b 11-11-2007 02:06 AM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
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Hand #3
Absolute Poker $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 5 players

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">UTG raises</font>, CO folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">BB caps!</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.60 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.80 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (10.80 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 10.80 BB

Results:
Hero shows 3d, 6d (One pair, sixes).
BB shows 5h, Ah (One pair, fives).
UTG mucks Ts, Ac.
Outcome: Hero wins 10.45 BB.


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You have a pretty clear river value bet here IMO. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Smurph64 11-11-2007 01:03 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
Rant coming. I am at the perfect table. To my left I have a guy who caps with inside straight draws. To his left I have a guy who will reraise/3 bet cold on the flop any two cards. Opposite me in this 6 handed 1/2 FT game I have a guy who is bet/fold. 3 to my right I have a guy who calls down from his 70% VPIP with 9 high. Two from my right is a guy who plays 5% PFR with an aggro of 1 and the guy to my right is a good player at 22/18/2 but who I completely own in blind vs blind or when he steal attempts.


If it weren't for the good player I would have been down 40bb with the annoying AA over KK capped and he hits K on river. Top two pair losing to runner runner 9 and Set losing to 5 completing inside straight draw on river.

I am jinked by bonus I swear to you. UB after 6k hands down 100 bb and now FT after 8k hands down 30 bb. PS I average 3 bb/100 and the players are so much more worse at FT than at PS.

Variance thou vexing temptress
Weaving and sweeping through the night
Ever striking those with might
To destroy the fortune that is our right

In such a journey we shall fight
Casting shadows, casting doubt
Variance strikes without fright

Another battle another day
Struggle onward without sway

For Variance the vicious temptress will betray
And yet we live and fight away

Variance thou wicked temptress,
I shall win tomorrow of that I pray and so it goes without delay....

Shuffle up and deal.

robrobdoe 11-11-2007 01:12 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
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Rant coming. I am at the perfect table. To my left I have a guy who caps with inside straight draws. To his left I have a guy who will reraise/3 bet cold on the flop any two cards. Opposite me in this 6 handed 1/2 FT game I have a guy who is bet/fold. 3 to my right I have a guy who calls down from his 70% VPIP with 9 high. Two from my right is a guy who plays 5% PFR with an aggro of 1 and the guy to my right is a good player at 22/18/2 but who I completely own in blind vs blind or when he steal attempts.

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Doesn't that make 7 players?

Smurph64 11-11-2007 01:43 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
hehe nope i forgot the 70 Vpip guy changed to tight nit.

Aaron W. 11-11-2007 03:50 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
Maybe I should fold more often...

Hand #1
PokerStars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">UTG raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (10.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">UTG bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB

Results:
Hero mucks Qs, As.
UTG shows Ks, Ad (a full house, Kings full of Aces).
Outcome: UTG wins 12.25 BB.
($1.00 Rake)

Hand #2
PokerStars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP calls.

Flop: (5.00 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results:
Hero mucks Td, Ad.
MP shows Ac, 8s (two pair, Aces and Eights).
Outcome: MP wins 8.10 BB.
($0.20 Rake)

Hand #3
PokerStars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.00 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.00 BB

Results:
Hero mucks Ac, Th.
BB shows 6h, Ts (a full house, Sixes full of Tens).
Outcome: BB wins 8.62 BB.
($0.75 Rake)

Hand #4
PokerStars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

CO posts a blind of $0.25

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO checks, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (4.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results:
CO shows Kd, Qh (two pair, Kings and Queens).
Hero mucks 4h, Ks.
Outcome: CO wins 8.10 BB.
($0.20 Rake)

Hand #5
PokerStars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises</font>, BB folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: (8.00 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.00 BB

Results:
SB shows Kd, As (a straight, Ten to Ace).
Hero mucks Qh, Jh.
Outcome: SB wins 9.60 BB.
($0.20 Rake)

Hand #6
PokerStars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (4.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.00 BB

Results:
SB shows 7h, 7d (a full house, Sevens full of Kings).
Hero mucks Qd, 6d.
Outcome: SB wins 9.62 BB.
($0.75 Rake)

Hand #7
PokerStars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB caps!</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (8.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.00 BB

Results:
Hero mucks 9s, Jc.
BB shows Th, Qc (a straight, Ten to Ace).
Outcome: BB wins 11.50 BB.
($1.00 Rake)

Hand #8
PokerStars $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.20 BB

Results:
BB shows 7d, 6d (a straight, Six to Ten).
Hero mucks Td, 9d.
Outcome: BB wins 8.80 BB.
($0.19 Rake)

Hand #9
PokerStars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB folds.

River: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results:
Hero mucks 6d, 6c.
CO shows Ah, Qh (a flush, Ace high).
Outcome: CO wins 8.12 BB.
($0.75 Rake)

Xylocain 11-11-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
thats what my last 1500 hands look like too [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ... exept I spew more and my PP gets cracked too.

I think I would have raised turn hand 2 for a free showdown?

and fwiw -- lol at ~ 90 BB you'll never see again. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Aaron W. 11-11-2007 04:42 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
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I think I would have raised turn hand 2 for a free showdown?

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I'm OOP, so that's no good.

Aaron W. 11-11-2007 04:54 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
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thats what my last 1500 hands look like too [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ... exept I spew more and my PP gets cracked too.

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You mean like this?

http://math.ucsd.edu/~awong/poker/other/downswing.JPG

Plus my -100BB live poker swing makes it a 250 BB downswing. Therefore, it should be turning around soon, right? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Ghie 11-11-2007 05:35 PM

Re: Don\'t come home until u is sobern! (NC Thread)
 
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/d...er12-11-07.jpg

Don't feel quite so bad now. Yikes where's my leaks? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]


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