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GoodCallYouWin 11-29-2007 12:38 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
I can do 1000 hands an hour fairly easily (12 tabling 6 max). I could probably do 100,000 hands in a week if I was driven to it.

ungar2000 11-29-2007 01:06 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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Alright, so 100k is easy. I wanna see a prop bet for 500k hands with the following stipulations:
- All at same limit (prolly like 100NL or so)
- All 6max
- At least one 50hr session (sitting w/ 25+ buyins at one table..no chip dumpers, meh)
- winrate of at least 2bb/100


Now there is a prop bet!!!

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Lets add in "fly to the moon" why we're at it.


Can we ban this guy yet?

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You have posted 3 times in the thread that i started, yet you want me banned? Quit putting others down to make yourself feel better.

nanonoko 11-29-2007 01:43 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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Alright, so 100k is easy. I wanna see a prop bet for 500k hands with the following stipulations:
- All at same limit (prolly like 100NL or so)
- All 6max
- At least one 50hr session (sitting w/ 25+ buyins at one table..no chip dumpers, meh)
- winrate of at least 2bb/100


Now there is a prop bet!!!

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Lets add in "fly to the moon" why we're at it.


Can we ban this guy yet?

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You have posted 3 times in the thread that i started, yet you want me banned? Quit putting others down to make yourself feel better.

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-the 50 hour session is impossible. no human can do that w/out wanting to eat or shower.

john voight 11-29-2007 04:17 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
maybe 8 tabling HU is the way to go?
I play 12 tables of 6 max usually at uNL (NL30 NL50)
andi will usually play HU when a game breaks up. often times i am playing 2, even 3 HU games while still playing 9 or 10 tables of 6h

so IMO 4 HU games would be easy.

Omniheart 11-29-2007 05:18 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
argoe has been playing 12 tables for like 14 hours now

Vavavoom 11-29-2007 06:01 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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argoe has been playing 12 tables for like 14 hours now

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That is sick ! 500k hands in a month @ 1 limit below your current...or NL100 would be pretty sick....

dirtylobster 11-29-2007 07:51 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
Lol OP. I've played 76k hands so far this month and it's 3-4 tabling. MT ratio 3.22, 234 hours. 100k would be easy 8-tabling.

K21 11-29-2007 08:32 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
100k for 500k hands in a month?
i would do it

stoxtrader 11-29-2007 11:40 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
leatherass will play more than 1.5MM hands this year, basically NL 1-2 up to 25/50 with a winrate of 4-5bb/100 overall I think. He will make stars supernova elite from 100% NL play and he started his chase mid april.

MicroBob 11-29-2007 11:41 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
K21 - I'll go lower than you and will say that I'll do it for $70k.
But it appears nobody wants to make any real offers on this.

ungar2000 11-29-2007 11:50 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
the problem is no one will offer a high prop bet, b/c those that would be accepting the bet don't have 50-100k to pay if they lose. It's a losing proposition in my mind.

Zaid_Ahmed 11-29-2007 12:00 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
i couldn't think of anything worse than playing 100k+ hands per month. I think the maximum I've ever played is 30k hands. Granted I'm not a pro, but poker becomes far less enjoyable playing loads of tables for large numbers of hours.

Stinger88 11-29-2007 12:02 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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i couldn't think of anything worse than playing 100k+ hands per month. I think the maximum I've ever played is 30k hands. Granted I'm not a pro, but poker becomes far less enjoyable playing loads of tables for large numbers of hours.

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Taylor Caby 11-29-2007 12:22 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
i sure could think of a lot of worse things to do for a month than playing 100k hands of poker. i think this is a LOT harder for high stakes players to imagine because so much more goes into the game. if you are just grinding out very low stakes, there isn't a whole lot of thinking that needs to go into playing optimally. you'd just be bored out of your mind. if you are trying to do this playing 10/20 and above, well, that's where it would get brutal.

tc

MicroBob 11-29-2007 12:25 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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the problem is no one will offer a high prop bet, b/c those that would be accepting the bet don't have 50-100k to pay if they lose. It's a losing proposition in my mind.

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I would insist on the money being fronted by both parties to a reputable middle-man. There's no way I'm just going to take someone at their word that I will be paid if I win...and I wouldn't expect them to just take me at my word either.

MicroBob 11-29-2007 12:33 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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i sure could think of a lot of worse things to do for a month than playing 100k hands of poker.

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Had a brief stretch "between jobs" where I worked as a security guard for $7/hr or something silly.
5 or 6 days a week of 12.5 hour shifts that had me wanting to kill myself from boredom and general misery...and obviously this was a LOT less than $100k.

Clayton 11-29-2007 12:44 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
yeah seriously, work a real job for sh*t wage and online poker starts looking a lot better.

i mean, its still mindless and retarded for the volume unless you're [censored] redargoe, but its 6 figures compared to the crap wages of other jobs.

Clayton 11-29-2007 12:44 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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kapie 12 tables 1/2 on stars, has played 95K hands in november so far

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but how much has he made?

chesterboy 11-29-2007 12:46 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
500k hands of 5/10 fixed limit, with a positive winrate before rakeback. If I had 100k to throw around I would bet against anyone in the world with those terms. But I don't of course so nm. Someone with money make this happen plz.

MicroBob 11-29-2007 01:03 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
I'm a losing player at 5/10 limit 6-max except MAYBE when I'm playing 3 or fewer tables so I would not take this bet unless I was given significant odds.
I prefer to do this bet at NL I think but wouldn't mind if I was allowed to mix it up.

A couple players who I think could pull it off at 5/10 6-max would be chezlaw and marchinvest2. Not sure I would front the money for them or anything...but they would have a chance.

jmill2511 11-29-2007 01:52 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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leatherass will play more than 1.5MM hands this year, basically NL 1-2 up to 25/50 with a winrate of 4-5bb/100 overall I think. He will make stars supernova elite from 100% NL play and he started his chase mid april.

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Nasty

Zaid_Ahmed 11-29-2007 01:57 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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i sure could think of a lot of worse things to do for a month than playing 100k hands of poker. i think this is a LOT harder for high stakes players to imagine because so much more goes into the game. if you are just grinding out very low stakes, there isn't a whole lot of thinking that needs to go into playing optimally. you'd just be bored out of your mind. if you are trying to do this playing 10/20 and above, well, that's where it would get brutal.

tc

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Ha, probably should of rephrased how i put it. There are obviously much worse things in life than playing 100k hands of poker a month. I suppose I just know people who are more obsessed with hourly rate and getting X amount of hands in and don't enjoy playing as much as when they first started out.
I couldn't imagine myself enjoying playing more than 3-4 tables, and most of the time only play 1 (mainly HU) or 2 whereas others couldn't play less than 6 as they'd get bored too easily.

markksman 11-29-2007 02:13 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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yeah seriously, work a real job for sh*t wage and online poker starts looking a lot better.

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Make real money at a real job or business where you work less and make a crapload more and your perspective changes. It is all about perspective.

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i mean, its still mindless and retarded for the volume unless you're [censored] redargoe, but its 6 figures compared to the crap wages of other jobs.

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I agree with that. If you are stick making 15k-30k a year and you can make 100k a year grinding on poker 15 hours a day, I say go for it. I also say SAVE every freaking penny and learn other ways to make money. I have said these numerous times but there are a lot easier ways to make money than playing poker. Making money playing poker may provide the means to find those better ways for some people.

I think it is a low-targetted goal to even want to be the top money earning poker player in the world. Where would they rank, based on poker earnings, among the richest people in the US or the World? They would not even register on the list.

I think the smart player is going to use poker as a means to an end.

MasterLJ 11-29-2007 02:18 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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yeah seriously, work a real job for sh*t wage and online poker starts looking a lot better.

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Make real money at a real job or business where you work less and make a crapload more and your perspective changes. It is all about perspective.

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i mean, its still mindless and retarded for the volume unless you're [censored] redargoe, but its 6 figures compared to the crap wages of other jobs.

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I agree with that. If you are stick making 15k-30k a year and you can make 100k a year grinding on poker 15 hours a day, I say go for it. I also say SAVE every freaking penny and learn other ways to make money. I have said these numerous times but there are a lot easier ways to make money than playing poker. Making money playing poker may provide the means to find those better ways for some people.

I think it is a low-targetted goal to even want to be the top money earning poker player in the world. Where would they rank, based on poker earnings, among the richest people in the US or the World? They would not even register on the list.

I think the smart player is going to use poker as a means to an end.

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Meh, the bolded part is a gold comment, but the rest is sort of bad. There's no job on Earth where I could make the money I'm making now working less hours.

I will concede that there are a ton of disillusioned people with poor bankroll management that are trying to make it in poker. The game wouldn't be profitable without them. Everyone seems to think they are poker gods while few actually make a living.

I totally agree that if you aren't using poker as an ends to a means, you are settling.

mplspoker 11-29-2007 03:30 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
I have done 250,000 hands in a month before. in the month i got around 300k in vpp's the month i got supernova elite

Python49 11-29-2007 04:07 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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i sure could think of a lot of worse things to do for a month than playing 100k hands of poker. i think this is a LOT harder for high stakes players to imagine because so much more goes into the game. if you are just grinding out very low stakes, there isn't a whole lot of thinking that needs to go into playing optimally. you'd just be bored out of your mind. if you are trying to do this playing 10/20 and above, well, that's where it would get brutal.

tc

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This is very true and I thought was understood by others, not sure if it was before but glad it was pointed out. Grinding 12 tables of 1/2 nl while listening to music is easy.

chesterboy 11-29-2007 04:09 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
poker is def a great way to get into other stuff. The money is great but i think i would have a mental breakdown if i played full time my whole life. (seriously) I am in the process right now of trying to transition into another business and can't wait until poker goes back in the hobby category.

Back on topic, I am pretty sure i would have a really hard time playing 100k hands in a month. But i am mainly a limit player.

dragonystic 11-29-2007 06:27 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
Is anyone interested in forming a collective group bet against MicroBob (or anyone else for that matter) about this bet? I have $2000 to put up. Everyone can wager what they want until we reach the specified bet amount. (Is that 70k now?)

The terms would be something like:
500k+ hands in a predetermined 31 day stretch
all cash games
1ptbb/100 minimum winrate
nothing lower than $100nl or 1/2 limit
and a daily update would be required

I also want to throw in a small caveat, that within the first 14 days, either side has the option of buying out the bet for 75% of the total bet amount.

Anyone in?

MicroBob 11-29-2007 07:02 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
we would need a trustworthy party to hold the money and also somebody to monitor my play somehow I guess and ensure that my PT screenshots are all legit, etc etc.

I don't want my Stars handle to become public knowledge mostly because I'mn embarassed by how much I suck...but for this prop I also wouldn't want anyone betting against me to show up at my tables and intentionally slow the games down which I think would be tempting strategy if I somehow got close.


I'm not 100% in on this yet.
But if we got $70k together for this and could get a trustworthy party to hold the money then I think I woudl give it a shot.

ungar2000 11-29-2007 07:05 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
get a CR pro to hold the money, imo.

ungar2000 11-29-2007 07:09 PM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
as a side...
maybe a 50hr session prop bet should happen. It is obviously difficult and fairly easy to monitor...

Erik W 11-30-2007 12:33 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
Leatherass probably averages 100k and have put in like
210-220k one month.

leatherass 11-30-2007 05:59 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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Leatherass probably averages 100k and have put in like
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You're almsost right on there. I probably average closer to 130k though. I have never had a month of less than 100k hands in the past 2 years if my memory serves me corectly.

88keyz 11-30-2007 08:03 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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Leatherass probably averages 100k and have put in like
210-220k one month.

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You're almsost right on there. I probably average closer to 130k though. I have never had a month of less than 100k hands in the past 2 years if my memory serves me corectly.

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Impressive. What limit do you play? 6 ring?

kyleb 11-30-2007 08:20 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
when i had 150% rakeback on an unnamed site i played two months of 100k+ hands. it's not too difficult.

schwah 11-30-2007 08:21 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
id consider putting 5-10k against microbob depending on the terms of the bet

kyleb 11-30-2007 08:22 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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K21 - I'll go lower than you and will say that I'll do it for $70k.
But it appears nobody wants to make any real offers on this.

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fwiw betting against microbob on this is almost a guaranteed loser bet. anyone who remembers his run in the zoo during the party WSOP promotion will know.

ike 11-30-2007 09:14 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
I garauntee i could play 500k hands in a month if i played small stakes. I could def 12+ table 1/2 full ring, get over 1000 hands per hour and play more than 300 hours in a month. It would be horrible though. I'd need a 6 figure prop bet and not on the lower end of 6 figures. I'd also need a lot of drugs.

Binbs 11-30-2007 10:32 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
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IanB000 11-30-2007 11:02 AM

Re: 100K hands in a month possible?
 
I'm IanBarns on stars I play NL50 6 max. I will bet any amount on me being able to maintain X PTBB/100 and up to like 300-400k hands in a month all while having to at least 18 table.


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