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My Block - Scarface
Flavor in your ear - Craig Mac ft. Biggie Ain't no half steppin - Big Daddy kane just a few of my favorites |
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pac was more intelligent
biggie was a better rapper. name 5 memorable pac punchlines... |
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C.R.E.A.M. by wu-tang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpZDT7vcIuY Duel of the Iron Mic gza http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtnVKiiKC4U Both of them feature amazing parts by the rebel ins the greatest rapper to ever live. |
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a few of my favorites that haven't been mentioned.
Outkast - Aquemini (you could go with any one of a bunch of songs and i won't argue, this is just my current favorite) Biggie - Unbelievable, Juicy, Ten Crack Commandments, etc Gang Starr feat. Big L - Work pt 2 Mobb Deep - Quiet Storm, Shook Ones pt 2 Nas - Affirmative Action, One Time 4 Your Mind, It Ain't Hard to Tell The Roots - 100% Dundee Wu-Tang - CREAM etc |
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dj premier plus nas plus krs1 plus rakin plus kanye (??? ehh) = CLASSIC
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UDCDrcZK4NE not sayin its the best... just feelin this a lot right now |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A Tribe Called Quest - Electric Relaxation [/ QUOTE ] rap =/ hip-hop [/ QUOTE ] They rap on the song so I'd say it's rap rap=the music hip hop=the culture imo [/ QUOTE ] I would agree and so does this dude: Are they terms for the same thing? No, says Davey D, nationally renowned hip-hop historian. He acknowledges that some people think rap is a more frivolous form of hip-hop, but thinks ''that's a false definition. One is part of a whole. Rap is part of a larger entity we call hip-hop, which is a culture.'' Hip-hop n., an American cultural movement composed of four main parts: breakdancing and graffiti art along with two more well-known aspects known as hip-hop music; they are rapping (emceeing) and DJ-ing. Rap v., the act of saying rhymes to the actual beat of the music. AMOG can you please explain why Brenda's Got a Baby is rap? Why is Electric Relaxation not rap? |
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LOL theAMOG is both:
a) a hudge nit b) wrong I'll go with Nas - NY State of Mind. But in all honesty, that's just the first really cool rap song I thought of. |
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It is impossible to pick a fav song, so here's a list:
Winter Wars// Ghostface Operation Doomsday// MF Doom Rhymes Like Dimes// MF Doom Juicy// B.I.G. Mastermind// Del the Funky Homosapien Glaciers of Ice (or anything off of Only Built for Cuban Linx for that matter)// Raekwon NY State of Mind// NAS 3 Bricks// Ghostface ft. Notorious BIG just to name a few |
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Nas - One Time 4 Your Mind [/ QUOTE ] The only song I FF through on Illmatic. I just can't stand it. Put Represent in it's spot imo [ QUOTE ] Gang Starr feat. Big L - Work pt 2 [/ QUOTE ] OH SNAP, this I have to hear. |
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HOw did this not get mentioned... i mean seriously... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPeHk4WMWpY
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Affirmative Action by Nas also
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A Tribe Called Quest - Electric Relaxation [/ QUOTE ] rap =/ hip-hop [/ QUOTE ] They rap on the song so I'd say it's rap rap=the music hip hop=the culture imo [/ QUOTE ] I would agree and so does this dude: Are they terms for the same thing? No, says Davey D, nationally renowned hip-hop historian. He acknowledges that some people think rap is a more frivolous form of hip-hop, but thinks ''that's a false definition. One is part of a whole. Rap is part of a larger entity we call hip-hop, which is a culture.'' Hip-hop n., an American cultural movement composed of four main parts: breakdancing and graffiti art along with two more well-known aspects known as hip-hop music; they are rapping (emceeing) and DJ-ing. Rap v., the act of saying rhymes to the actual beat of the music. AMOG can you please explain why Brenda's Got a Baby is rap? Why is Electric Relaxation not rap? [/ QUOTE ] KRS-one says basically the same thing on the Hip Hop lives title track also. If he thinks conscious hip hop isn't rap then he needs to do be assigned an essay about what rap's subject matter was primarily about until Ice Tea came along lol. |
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HOw did this not get mentioned... i mean seriously... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPeHk4WMWpY [/ QUOTE ] lollolol |
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Also and being serious how is there no roots manuva. srsly. [/ QUOTE ] i'd go on a long shot and say most people are americans? roots manuva never broke out of the UK scene much at all. |
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C.R.E.A.M. by Wu-Tang
West Savannah by Outkast Halo by Hieroglyphics Mastermind by Deltron (Saw him live, off the chain!) What Go Around Come Around, Kid by Cypress Hill Sure Shot by Beastie Boys |
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I don't know what the best single track is, but the five best ever albums are:
Enter The 36 Chambers by The Wu-Tang Clan No One Can Do It Better by The D.O.C. Blackout by Method Man and Redman Do You Want More?!!!??! by The Roots Paul's Boutique by the Beastie Boys |
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Winter Wars// Ghostface [/ QUOTE ] has the best cappadonna verse ever. |
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[ QUOTE ] Winter Wars// Ghostface [/ QUOTE ] has the only good cappadonna verse ever. [/ QUOTE ] fyp. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Winter Wars// Ghostface [/ QUOTE ] has the only good cappadonna verse ever. [/ QUOTE ] fyp. [/ QUOTE ] i agree, i wasnt on top of my game. |
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I don't know what the best single track is, but the five best ever albums are: Illmatic - Nas Ready to Die - Notorious BIG Aquemini - Outkast Enter the 36 Chambers - Wu-Tang Clan Things Fall Apart - The Roots [/ QUOTE ] FYP honorable mention: Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt Mobb Deep - The Infamous Nas - It Was Written DJ Shadow - Endtroducing Company Flow - 8 Steps to Perfection |
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You know people kept making music after the year 2000, right? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Nah, those are all kickass albums. I might go Funcrusher Plus > 8 steps though. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] A Tribe Called Quest - Electric Relaxation [/ QUOTE ] rap =/ hip-hop [/ QUOTE ] tomato, tomato on second thought this is probably amusing, what's the difference? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't have minded explaining it if 1. I thought there was a chance of you actually listening to what I have to say. 2. Didn't patronize me. If you don't know the difference between rap and hip-hop, well, it's not all that shocking really. But, too bad for you. [/ QUOTE ] lozl you don't have an answer So 'hip hop' isn't just some arbitrary term afrika bambatta coined way back to try and differentiate and market himself, and is actually a separate genre of music? This is what you're implying? |
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Loddy Doddy by Doug E. Fresh or Radio by LL Cool J [/ QUOTE ] LLLLLLLLLLBWHLAOBLOALBKLJBLOOOOOOOOOZZZZZL The old white pastor gets it so much more right than most of you. |
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i think the distinction is this:
hip hop culture rap music. account on stars: homeydontplaythatJ7off |
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TROY is an excellent beat, but Still D.R.E. works in almost any situation.
Other really good beats(maybe not in such a good song): We already did the best West Coast and old school NY ones, but: 50 Cent- Patiently Waiting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J63M...eature=related Not a great song, though Take some Big and some Pac and you mix em' up in a pot Sprinkle a little Big L on top, what the [censored] do you got? is a pretty nice line. I have a tremendous soft spot for T.I.s 24s beat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F8R5...eature=related But I did misspeak. Still D.R.E. is at best #4. T-2 Fire It Up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IM6dc5nPc T-2 How Many Wanna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzXjfGCHULQ #1 Industry Groupie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyzPqAKD6Ng |
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i think the distinction is this: hip hop culture rap music. account on stars: homeydontplaythatJ7off [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I know what he was getting at. But basically the whole concept of a hip hop culture is pretty absurd as well. It was a term coined by Afrika Bambatta that was largely largely viewed as retarded for over a decade, until corporations starting tapping into this idea of an artificial pseudo-culture in order to sell people shoes and hamburgers and whatever else. Oh yeah, and so people can call themselves 'hip hop historian's and find a niche to make a dollar. Culture isn't something you artificially construct, it organically develops and manifests itself. |
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[ QUOTE ] i think the distinction is this: hip hop culture rap music. account on stars: homeydontplaythatJ7off [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I know what he was getting at. But basically the whole concept of a hip hop culture is pretty absurd as well. It was a term coined by Afrika Bambatta that was largely largely viewed as retarded for over a decade, until corporations starting tapping into this idea of an artificial pseudo-culture in order to sell people shoes and hamburgers and whatever else. Oh yeah, and so people can call themselves 'hip hop historian's and find a niche to make a dollar. Culture isn't something you artificially construct, it organically develops and manifests itself. [/ QUOTE ] while i dont think its the authority, have you read Jeff Chang's Can't Stop Won't Stop? I think it addresses the idea of a culture being created. If anything, its american culture, just as much as jazz is part of american culture. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i think the distinction is this: hip hop culture rap music. account on stars: homeydontplaythatJ7off [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I know what he was getting at. But basically the whole concept of a hip hop culture is pretty absurd as well. It was a term coined by Afrika Bambatta that was largely largely viewed as retarded for over a decade, until corporations starting tapping into this idea of an artificial pseudo-culture in order to sell people shoes and hamburgers and whatever else. Oh yeah, and so people can call themselves 'hip hop historian's and find a niche to make a dollar. Culture isn't something you artificially construct, it organically develops and manifests itself. [/ QUOTE ] while i dont think its the authority, have you read Jeff Chang's Can't Stop Won't Stop? I think it addresses the idea of a culture being created. If anything, its american culture, just as much as jazz is part of american culture. [/ QUOTE ] I know the book you talk about but haven't read it. Does he agree or disagree with me? |
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tupac-hit em up
gets me pumped everytime |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i think the distinction is this: hip hop culture rap music. account on stars: homeydontplaythatJ7off [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I know what he was getting at. But basically the whole concept of a hip hop culture is pretty absurd as well. It was a term coined by Afrika Bambatta that was largely largely viewed as retarded for over a decade, until corporations starting tapping into this idea of an artificial pseudo-culture in order to sell people shoes and hamburgers and whatever else. Oh yeah, and so people can call themselves 'hip hop historian's and find a niche to make a dollar. Culture isn't something you artificially construct, it organically develops and manifests itself. [/ QUOTE ] while i dont think its the authority, have you read Jeff Chang's Can't Stop Won't Stop? I think it addresses the idea of a culture being created. If anything, its american culture, just as much as jazz is part of american culture. [/ QUOTE ] I know the book you talk about but haven't read it. Does he agree or disagree with me? [/ QUOTE ] i'd say up until the point that "hip hop" was coined only as some sort of corporate maneuver. the different 'elements' (i always feel silly saying that) of the all inclusive were not always part of some unified whole, but came out of, according to change, political/social events that drastically changed the lives of the middle and lower class in new york city. in other words, it was the result of turmoil that these things came together, bambaata coined the term, but the events were still already going on. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i think the distinction is this: hip hop culture rap music. account on stars: homeydontplaythatJ7off [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I know what he was getting at. But basically the whole concept of a hip hop culture is pretty absurd as well. It was a term coined by Afrika Bambatta that was largely largely viewed as retarded for over a decade, until corporations starting tapping into this idea of an artificial pseudo-culture in order to sell people shoes and hamburgers and whatever else. Oh yeah, and so people can call themselves 'hip hop historian's and find a niche to make a dollar. Culture isn't something you artificially construct, it organically develops and manifests itself. [/ QUOTE ] while i dont think its the authority, have you read Jeff Chang's Can't Stop Won't Stop? I think it addresses the idea of a culture being created. If anything, its american culture, just as much as jazz is part of american culture. [/ QUOTE ] I know the book you talk about but haven't read it. Does he agree or disagree with me? [/ QUOTE ] i re-read what you wrote, and so in a sense, yes, he agrees with you, but leans towards the idea that it wasnt some kind of slippery guise to sell [censored] to people. |
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As of this moment, it is: Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You (TROY) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Yzzn5uBzU [/ QUOTE ] this song is so hot |
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seriously BIG- juicy is such a bbv song why doesnt everyone just agree
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