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If your nephew is this retardedly brazen of a thief, he will get get caught in the act eventually. You don't need to be the one to break the news to your brother about his son. He either already knows that his son is a thief, or will find out soon enough.

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yea, it sounds like it would only make things awkward for everyone without resolving anything.

is there anything about the kid's behavior in the past that would make you think he'd do something like this? the going-through-pockets-for-cash is a little surprising. really, i'd expect the 14 y.o. to be looking in the closet or under the bed for Uncle Howard's porno stash, not for his bankroll cash.

i guess you could hide a videocam under a hat or something, pointed at yr pants on the chair, and see if he comes back for more...that's assuming he took it in the first place. which maybe he did. but maybe he didn't.

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Hey Howard, you going to be at Casino AZ tomm night? I might go after the ASU game if I know you'll be there. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(Turkey will be gone by then, nap will be taken, so come on out and play!)

T

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Hopeless,

I don't think this act necessarily makes a career thief. When I was a kid I came across a huge jar of change at a friend of my parent's house and pilfered a bunch of quarters to use on arcade games. I was probably only 8-9 at the time and got caught and was punished. Maybe I was too young to know the difference between right and wrong, and at 14 he should know better, I dunno. But present a kid with a chance to score a lot more money than he is ever given and it's awfully tempting.

I never stole anything after that (well, besides music online, heh), never shoplifted anything, never had the urge. It was just like that scene in Boogie Nights where Don Cheadle is the lone person standing after the donut shop shootout; the temptation to steal the register money after the bank declined him for a small business loan was too strong to resist. And of course he went on to start a fantastic electronics store and the donut shop was probably insured so it all worked out for the best.

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I took it to pay for my glasses.

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Hey Howard, you going to be at Casino AZ tomm night? I might go after the ASU game if I know you'll be there. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(Turkey will be gone by then, nap will be taken, so come on out and play!)

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Hi, T, I most likely won't be there tomorrow. Sorry to miss you though but there will be a next time. Right now I've got this HUGE hangover because I played to 5:30am in an insane game, had to take a Vicodin at 3 because my leg was hurting so bad and only .5mg Xanax when I got home because I've got to taper off of it. So added w/ the 2 tequila martinis I'm going to have tomorrow w/ the incredible amount of food at the Hyatt buffet I doubt I'll be in any sort of shape to play until Friday. Let me know if you're still here then. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Edit: Off to the mall now. I hope Beowulf is bearable. Check back later if this is still going.

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We're eating at the Squaw Peak Hilton, going shopping early Friday Am (4am, ldo) will probably head home around 10am Friday, but if I stay I'll call you. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

kisses,
T

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i dunno. i mean, how old are you? and you still live with moms?

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In his defense, he takes care of his elderly mother.

In Noah's defense, HB might be one of the most socially awkward posters on 2p2. I think this is part act on HB's part though.

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Total act. He's very engaging and friendly in person.

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get some counterfeit money as bait for next time so when he steals it he gets [censored] when he tries to use it.

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This is what I'm doing. I've let the entire thing slide because I think it's best. I'm treating my nephew as if nothing happened but we are going to the mall soon and normally I'd buy him something but I won't this time and I'm not going to let my mother spend the amount she usually would on him. Also, his d-day is Friday. I was going to put $100 in the card but now he's getting a fiver.


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If you don't care that much about the money and you were going to give him $100, why not give him a card with $50 and a note saying something along the lines of "I was only going to give you $10, but something told me you could use the money."

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At dinner, tell them you had an operative witness the theft. Have everyone stand at the dinner table and put their right hand into the person's left pocket. Find the marked bill.

Make that person switch places with a homeless guy. Hilarity will ensue.

Leverage the homeless guy's street smarts and the thief's knowledge of financial markets to take down the Dukes.

Profit.

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I think we have a winner!

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Howard (not your real name),

I think everyone here knows you are basically a social retard, so we will cut you some slack.

Why not just approach the kid directly and ask him? Why the dramatics? Just say you left some money out and now its missing and you wanted to know if he was playing a joke on you by hiding it. That way he can play along and return it w/o admitting to stealing.

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lol, you insult him, then proceed to offer truly terrible advice. impressive.

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I'm with the posters who feel you have some familial responsibility to your brother to let him know. If it were me in the situation, I'd go out of my way to make it clear I've already written off the $100, and that i'm not 100% sure it's been stolen.

If your brother doesn't have some inclination that his son might have done this, then he probably hasn't. If he did do it, you brother should have the information so he can try and raise a kid with some morals. Everyones story about how they stole as a kid, but don't do it anymore involves them getting caught. Maybe 14 is too late, but maybe not. is a little bit of peace worth keeping your brother from a shot at raising his kid better?

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Everyones story about how they stole as a kid, but don't do it anymore involves them getting caught.

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This is really untrue.
i had a friend in high-school who shoplifted quite a bit and never got caught. I really doubt he still steals now. In the very least, he did not graduate on to armed-robbery or stealing cars or something.

I had no excuse for it because I was old enough to know better but ge got me into shoplifting a couple of items also when I was kid.
I never got caught. I no longer steal.

So while many bigger criminals obviousl do start small...I do not think that a kid who swipes $100 when given the opportunity is going to turn to a lifetime of crime.
Obviously the chances are much higher for a kid who does this as opposed to a kid who doesn't do this though. But it's far from a guarantee.

I do think that turning your back on the whole situation because you are afraid of rocking the boat is pretty silly.
IF the kid does have a problem then just ignoring it probably isn't going to help him.

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i dunno. i mean, how old are you? and you still live with moms?

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there's nothing wrong with living with your mom if you get along with her. Personally, I moved out when I was 16, but my mother is nuts.

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Also 9 times out of 10 these kinds of things turn out that the accuser did something with the $100 and forgot about it.

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bingo. Same thing goes for stolen stuff.

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What exactly would your brother go nuts about? You accusing his son of stealing or his son stealing stuff? And in what way would he go nutso? Starting yelling at you/kid in front of the fam?

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He took the money to go to an Asian massage parlor obv. You should be proud.

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He won't get much for $100. A hj if he's lucky and gets a sympathetic girl.

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What exactly would your brother go nuts about? You accusing his son of stealing or his son stealing stuff? And in what way would he go nutso? Starting yelling at you/kid in front of the fam?

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My brother is wound very, very tight. Sometimes I can't believe that he's my brother because I can't stay mad at anybody for more than 15 minutes. He had trouble w/ his eldest stealing from him and his mom, his second eldest sort of went to reform school (although he's now turning out the best of them) and if I mention missing money he'll think just as I do and be real upset. So, by now, I've really put it aside completely.

I'm sure many are saying wtf kind of family is this and I'll tell you. One day out of the clear blue sky my brother's wife told him to get the [censored] out and her boyfriend moved right in. He's never been the same since. He went thru a horrific time w/ the divorce and all the kids were terribly effected. Things are better now, they share custody sort of informally, but his ex has had a procession of men living in her house with and without the kids who are often at my brother's place nearby, she runs off to Peru where she consults has bought some land in a remote area of the country and consults with the local shamans or something so she's wierd. Anyhoo, I've kept my mouth shut and my money locked up. They'll all be gone by Sunday and mom says that next year we're spending Thanksgiving in LV and the company can go.......well, just go.

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Is your brother that real hippie lookin dude you posted pictures of a while ago?

FWIW, I think you handled it ok. Sounds like your bro is having a hard enough time. You shouldn't be jerky to your nephew though. Either confront him about it, or let it slide. Sounds like the kid has been having a rough time too.

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He won't get much for $100. A hj if he's lucky and gets a sympathetic girl.

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This kid doesn't need to pay. He's 5-10, good looking and solid. Just the sort Debra LaFave would choose. Last year I took him to the wave pool. He comes to me complaining that some of the female lifeguards were asking for his phone number. So I asked what he told them and he just said that he told them that he thought they were too old for him which I told him was lame and he should get right back there and at least flirt but he was too scared.

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Is your brother that real hippie lookin dude you posted pictures of a while ago?

FWIW, I think you handled it ok. Sounds like your bro is having a hard enough time. You shouldn't be jerky to your nephew though. Either confront him about it, or let it slide. Sounds like the kid has been having a rough time too.

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No, that was my brother's eldest. The gf in that picture dumped him and he's taken up w/ the fugliest asian girl I've ever seen. And I've got the yellow fever. Yesterday she was swimming in our pool and I refused to even go look. This nephew is the youngest and he's been thru the least of the bad stuff because it's sort of mellowed over the years, thank goodness. Anyway, I'm done w/ it. We're having a BD party for the kid in 10 minutes. He'll be 14 on Monday.

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you should hint to the kid that you know so he doesn't think he got away with it unsuspected. Maybe something subtle so that he thinks his dad is going to bring it up for like a week and takes everything out of context. Gotta f with him somehow

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howard let it go and dont say anything. why ruin peoples lives that arent even involved.

if you must say something, say it to the kid like, hey i lost a 100 dollar bill somewhere and no one returned it. i hope they regret it someday.

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I would anounce that you lost the money somewhere in the house and will give a reward if somoene finds it. This lets him return the money if he is feeling guilty. Lets him get a rewad. And lets you know he stole it.

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lol @ 'ruining people's lives'.

Just say that you had $427 dollars in your pocket of donation money that you were compiling to give into a Christmas charity fund when it got to 500. Say that when you checked your pocket 100 was gone.

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Get the kid on his own...slap him REALLY hard upsides his head.
While his ears are still ringing tell him that was 50c worth and ask him if he'd like another $99.50 of it.

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howard let it go and dont say anything. why ruin peoples lives that arent even involved.

if you must say something, say it to the kid like, hey i lost a 100 dollar bill somewhere and no one returned it. i hope they regret it someday.

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ray zee wins

(as usual)

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I was in a similar situation about this time last year. My gf's little brother(15) comes to stay with us a couple times a year around school vacations. When he left there was $50 missing. I called him up and told him I was extremely disappointed and that if he ever stole from me again I would break his fingers. I also told him if he needed money he could just ask. We're already pretty generous to him. He apologized. A few weeks ago when he was here I had him rake the leaves and load my truck for the dump.

I think he's just in the rebellious teen phase and he's been in some other trouble as well, so I just chalked it up to that. And he's always been a great kid otherwise.

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I was going to let this thread fade away but since somebody bumped it here's the rest of the story:

The $100 went missing on Tuesday. I locked up my money from then on and hid the key. Apparently I didn't hide the key well enough because on Saturday night I noticed that the box had been moved a couple of inches and when I counted the money in the box I was short $500 from the $3,800 I'd had. That was completely outrageous and I couldn't let that be so I went to the kid and said 'I'm missing $500. Look around in the computer room (where he was sleeping) and I'm going to look in my BR' but he didn't come up with the money. I didn't make a scene because I was worried about my mother's health. Just before taking my brother and nephew to the airport on Sunday I gathered up some spare change to put into our coin buckets that are on the kitchen counter. When they are full we cash them in at Fort McDowell which still keeps a coin counter and use it for Morton's. Anyway, one bucket was full and we'd started using the other one but I lifted the lid of the full one to see if I could fit in a few more coins and let out a largely involuntary, loud, 'What the heck?' when I saw that it was half empty and my mom saw what was going on and right away asked if her grandson might have taken the money. This was the last straw for me and, frankly, I was worried about the kid because while it's one thing to lift a $100 and even $500 and hope to get away with it it's another thing to take a half of a full coin bucket and hope that no one will notice but I still didn't want to start up right then so I told my mom that I'd call his mother since my brother is wound so tight.

I ended up calling my brother and telling him the story and to my surprise he took it calmly telling me that they'd already been having the same problem with the kid and he was going over to his ex's house to confront his son. I confess that I'm now mad at my brother for not warning us in the first place because I could've hidden everything to begin with and all of this wouldn't have happened.

End result: The kid confessed in like 2 seconds when confronted. Since my brother doesn't have money to burn they have purchased a plane ticket for 2 weeks from now and are sending my nephew right back here (he'll stay with a brother of his who lives nearby) to apologize in person and return the money. After he goes thru his ordeal I plan to take him aside and tell him that everybody does stupid stuff when they are his age, he's now forgiven and it will never be brought up by me in the future and he can still visit but to make sure not to do anything like that anymore. I also plan to tell him not to be so stupid. Put the damn box back like you found it, fool, and don't take HALF of a coin bucket.

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Jesus Christ.......

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beat him to a [censored] pulp behind closed doors

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I get my money back, the kid gets a life lesson that will hopefully straighten him out from a family that cares for him. Better this (if it's got to be) than something that lands him in jail later on.

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More fitting in our case:

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I ended up calling my brother and telling him the story and to my surprise he took it calmly telling me that they'd already been having the same problem with the kid and he was going over to his ex's house to confront his son.

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Yeah, this is a little effed up on your brother's part. Especially if he knows you go to casinos and are likely to have large amounts of cash. It's just courtesy to give you a heads up, in your own home.

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HB--

You handled this well.

Also, THREAD DELIVERS.

All my best,

--Nate

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Trust that your brother (in-law?)'s care for his son is strong er than whatever has gotten him wound up and speak with him frankly about it. Even if he is angered with the difficulty of what to do, or angered by his own ownership in the situation, and projects it onto you. Behind it all, it's for your nephew's benefit. You said it, "I probably should."

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Not too bad, it only cost you another ~$600 or so to get up the balls to talk to his father when your gut told you that you should originally... For his birthday, give him a payment coupon book for the missing amount spread out over the next few years and let him know that his shame can be let go of if he cleans it up... if you care about him enough to be tough on him.

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HB,

"Since my brother doesn't have money to burn they have purchased a plane ticket for 2 weeks from now"

Huh? That part confused me.

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this is actually good.

new solution: beat the [censored] crap out of him (behind closed doors) and then send him off to be raped by priests.