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Leaky Eye 11-21-2007 01:00 AM

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Another bit of Parkman being a dumbass that hasn't been mentioned yet. If he can manipulate the thoughts of his boss why is he only asking him for a goddamm 24 hour extension on the Petrelli investigation?

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What does it matter? He can just ask for more if he needs.

Golden_Rhino 11-21-2007 01:07 AM

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Another bit of Parkman being a dumbass that hasn't been mentioned yet. If he can manipulate the thoughts of his boss why is he only asking him for a goddamm 24 hour extension on the Petrelli investigation?

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What does it matter? He can just ask for more if he needs.

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QFT

"Parkman, you're fired!"

"No I'm not"

"No you're not"

Jeffmet3 11-21-2007 01:15 AM

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Okay, so it's shaping up to be Adam and Peter versus the company.

Hiro is siding with the company because his father was with the company and he hates Adam.

At the end, they show Bennett getting blood and coming back to life. However, we don't know that it is from the company.

Don't you guys think that there's a chance that it is Adam's blood? They could've rescued him to help with their battle against the company. Peter could've taken care of getting Bennett out of there.

Nonfiction 11-21-2007 01:16 AM

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Wow so I had a crazy thought when Bob was sticking the needle in Claire. I thought that when he was giving that whole "you would have been useful" etc talk, he was then going to give her the vaccine, meaning that her cells could no longer heal the plague. Meaning that Bob was uber sektritly working with Adam, and with Claire's blood now worthless, they would have the only cure for the plague. And then I saw he was just taking some blood and I was sad cause everything was so predictable.

Nonfiction 11-21-2007 01:22 AM

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Also, the room/place HRG was revived in did not look like the companies facility place we have seen many times before. Slight possibility that the Company doesn't have him?

Golden_Rhino 11-21-2007 01:23 AM

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Don't you guys think that there's a chance that it is Adam's blood? They could've rescued him to help with their battle against the company. Peter could've taken care of getting Bennett out of there.

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This is what I assumed at the time.

asofel 11-21-2007 01:26 AM

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Are we to believe that Adam's truly immortal? A stick or piece of glass to the back of the head won't kill him like others? The whole "we can't do anything but lock him up" seems silly unless he's truly completely regenerative.

oh and obvious 'kristen bell is hot'...

TomVeil 11-21-2007 01:42 AM

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Are we to believe that Adam's truly immortal? A stick or piece of glass to the back of the head won't kill him like others? The whole "we can't do anything but lock him up" seems silly unless he's truly completely regenerative.

oh and obvious 'kristen bell is hot'...

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It seems like it, after he was (presumably) blown into millions of pieces in the huge explosion in ancient Japan.

El Diablo 11-21-2007 02:06 AM

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All,

This show is retarded.

jono 11-21-2007 02:20 AM

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Are we to believe that Adam's truly immortal? A stick or piece of glass to the back of the head won't kill him like others? The whole "we can't do anything but lock him up" seems silly unless he's truly completely regenerative.

oh and obvious 'kristen bell is hot'...

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It seems like it, after he was (presumably) blown into millions of pieces in the huge explosion in ancient Japan.

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Peter also blew up Nuclear but regenerated. So him and Claire can also recover from this type of thing. So we can't conclude cutting off Kensei's head or a spike isn't effective.

lvalntin99 11-21-2007 02:43 AM

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2,1

Kimbell175113 11-21-2007 02:47 AM

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All,

This show is retarded.

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TheCroShow 11-21-2007 05:33 AM

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i give up on this show and refuse to watch it any longer.

this show had so much potential!!

pros: sylar and peter and HRG
cons: EVERYONE ELSE

i will read future threads from time to time, but i give up, what a [censored] 2nd season. i hope this series gets cancelled

Taso 11-21-2007 07:10 AM

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Why do you guys call him HRG?

Damn, I had a lot of questions I thought of after reading posts in this thread, but have now forgot them all.

And yo, don't get me wrong, I think Claire is hot, but she's kinda flippin stocky. Short legs or something, idk.

Keepitsimple 11-21-2007 07:30 AM

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sigh why is the story so bad???

Its unbelievable someone working on the perhaps most popular show on tv can be this talentless. Also what about actually hiring real actors. Claire/Fly boy are horrendous.

Daddy Warbucks 11-21-2007 08:03 AM

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Also, something just clicked with me this morning, Bennett waking up was a throwback to Claire waking up in the morgue with her chest opened up.

Kiera 11-21-2007 08:40 AM

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OK yah this show is totally retarded, but I had so much fun reading this thread. Anyone watch it just cuz they can't wait for the 4400? The genre has merit.

Jack Bando 11-21-2007 10:32 AM

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Taso,HRG=Horn Rimmed Glasses. Mohinder called him that in episode 1 of season 1. "Some guy with horn-rimmed glasses is after me."

Matt Flynn 11-21-2007 11:01 AM

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Is fly boy an absorber? How else did he survive that fall? Surely not having Claire cushion him?

I liked the HRG ending. Writing blows, West is the worst actor, Claire close but obv forgiven, Sulu rocks.

mrkilla 11-21-2007 11:15 AM

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I still like this show , but its going down a retarded path thats for sure.
To many things we are just suppose to accept to be true. Also the "Secrets" sucks and are easily guessed. Meh 2 ep left this season I will ofc be watching them.

Kneel B4 Zod 11-21-2007 11:19 AM

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Is fly boy an absorber? How else did he survive that fall? Surely not having Claire cushion him?

I liked the HRG ending. Writing blows, West is the worst actor, Claire close but obv forgiven, Sulu rocks.

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she has had a ton of frappuccinos.

but that doesnt explain how he tackled electricity girl after flying/hitting her at like 50 mph and walked away fine.

given his girly frame, he probably should have broken 15 bones in that little stunt

govman6767 11-21-2007 01:26 PM

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- I don't understand Hiro is determined to get revenge on Adam, right? So ok, he doesn't want to save his dad, whatever, but why not stick around for a couple more secs, freeze time again, and kill Adam?

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the immortality thing might pose a slight problem

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Pfft. Freeze time, cover him in concrete, drop him in the ocean. Piece of cake.

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Bah we have already seen that the regens can be killed permantly you just have to keep perm damage in their brain stem.

TomVeil 11-21-2007 02:07 PM

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OK yah this show is totally retarded, but I had so much fun reading this thread. Anyone watch it just cuz they can't wait for the 4400? The genre has merit.

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OMG YES!

Every time I watch this show, I'm dissapointed that it's not 4400.

RunDownHouse 11-21-2007 02:49 PM

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but that doesnt explain how he tackled electricity girl after flying/hitting her at like 50 mph and walked away fine.

given his girly frame, he probably should have broken 15 bones in that little stunt


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Ditto with him lifting HRG after a flying tackle. "No super strength, no unbreakable bones, but I can hit you with my shoulder with the force of a mack truck and still hoist your scrawny ass!"

Hiro turning into the Ghost of Christmas Past was my biggest eye-roll moment. Still, I'm watching and will continue to watch. Guys, it's a videotaped comic book. Comics are notorious for dubious science and ludicrous plots. That's fine entertainment.

coyote 11-21-2007 04:08 PM

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Also, the room/place HRG was revived in did not look like the companies facility place we have seen many times before. Slight possibility that the Company doesn't have him?

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Actually, it looked pretty much exactly like the rooms Peter and Adam were held in....

Jack Bando 11-21-2007 04:43 PM

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Also, the room/place HRG was revived in did not look like the companies facility place we have seen many times before. Slight possibility that the Company doesn't have him?

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Actually, it looked pretty much exactly like the rooms Peter and Adam were held in....

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It looked smaller and dingier actually. It seemed familiar, like it was the Odessa branch.

And can we not argue physics about a superhero show? Nathan/West should lose their skin at the speeds their flying, or pass out from the altitude, Nathan should have cancer from getting hit by Peter's nuclear blast, etc...

DonkeyKongSr 11-21-2007 05:28 PM

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...Nathan should have cancer from getting hit by Peter's nuclear blast, etc...

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Magic blood.

AlexM 11-21-2007 05:38 PM

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Is fly boy an absorber? How else did he survive that fall? Surely not having Claire cushion him?

I liked the HRG ending. Writing blows, West is the worst actor, Claire close but obv forgiven, Sulu rocks.

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she has had a ton of frappuccinos.

but that doesnt explain how he tackled electricity girl after flying/hitting her at like 50 mph and walked away fine.

given his girly frame, he probably should have broken 15 bones in that little stunt

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I would imagine it's the same thing that keeps the fliers from getting killed just by doing what they're doing in the first place. I mean did you see how fast Nathan was flying last season?

AlexM 11-21-2007 05:40 PM

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- I don't understand Hiro is determined to get revenge on Adam, right? So ok, he doesn't want to save his dad, whatever, but why not stick around for a couple more secs, freeze time again, and kill Adam?

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the immortality thing might pose a slight problem

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Pfft. Freeze time, cover him in concrete, drop him in the ocean. Piece of cake.

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Bah we have already seen that the regens can be killed permantly you just have to keep perm damage in their brain stem.

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In theory yes, but Adam said they couldn't kill him. Dunno why he said that.

Jack Bando 11-21-2007 06:11 PM

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...Nathan should have cancer from getting hit by Peter's nuclear blast, etc...

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Magic blood.

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Touche.

jogsxyz 11-21-2007 07:29 PM

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- I don't understand Hiro is determined to get revenge on Adam, right? So ok, he doesn't want to save his dad, whatever, but why not stick around for a couple more secs, freeze time again, and kill Adam?

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Don't think Hiro can kill Adam. From Highlander we know an immortal can only be killed by being beheaded by another immortal.

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Save the cheerleader, save the world.

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Only Claire can kill Adam. Hiro would need to freeze time on Adam to allow Claire to behead Adam.

esad 11-21-2007 08:17 PM

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Lately these Heroes threads are starting to remind me of the "Rate this Girl" threads.

Someone posts a pic of a 7-8, then a bunch of internet nerds respond with "She's a 4 tops, maybe a 5 if she lost 15 lbs."

Taso 11-21-2007 08:39 PM

Re: Heroes 11/19-Things are starting to get good. Wait,what?
 
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- I don't understand Hiro is determined to get revenge on Adam, right? So ok, he doesn't want to save his dad, whatever, but why not stick around for a couple more secs, freeze time again, and kill Adam?

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Don't think Hiro can kill Adam. From Highlander we know an immortal can only be killed by being beheaded by another immortal.

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Save the cheerleader, save the world.

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Only Claire can kill Adam. Hiro would need to freeze time on Adam to allow Claire to behead Adam.

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Claire's cut off her toe before and it regrew - I imagine it'd be the same with a head.

Jack Bando 11-21-2007 09:10 PM

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So would the head grow a new body or would the body grow a new head? Or both?

El Diablo 11-21-2007 09:12 PM

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jog,

"From Highlander we know an immortal can only be killed by being beheaded by another immortal."

Where was it stated that it had to be another immortal doing the beheading?

TomVeil 11-21-2007 09:25 PM

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jog,

"From Highlander we know an immortal can only be killed by being beheaded by another immortal."

Where was it stated that it had to be another immortal doing the beheading?

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It doesn't. At least in the series. I remember multiple episodes with Rogue Watchers killing immortals, and at least one who gets decapitated by a...train?

jogsxyz 11-21-2007 11:02 PM

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jog,

"From Highlander we know an immortal can only be killed by being beheaded by another immortal."

Where was it stated that it had to be another immortal doing the beheading?

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It was from the movie version in 1986 with Christopher Lambert and Sean Connery. Of course I may have remembered it wrong or the rules have since changed.

blackize 11-22-2007 03:27 AM

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Claire's cut off her toe before and it regrew - I imagine it'd be the same with a head.

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Adam seems to think that if he is beheaded he dies.

Case Closed 11-22-2007 03:42 AM

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Writers strike ftl

I thought this was a good episode and I'll keep up with this show. But there is far too much hate in this thread.

dankhank 11-22-2007 03:55 AM

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i thought this was a strong episode.

there were two good fight scenes if you count the part where hiro does something unexpected and shows back up on terrace to identify adam. and the final scene at the beach was i thought one of the better scenes in either season.

i don't care about the dubious science of west lifting HRG into the air or claire cushioning his 200 foot fall. i do care about events proceeding in a logical way that is true to the characters as we've come to know them. there are a dozen retarded ways that isaac's paintings could've come true, but what did happen was HRG has consistently shown he will protect claire at all costs, and he put mohinder in a situation where he was forced to make a tough choice. that is good writing. (him coming back to life is wack.)

would you rather elle be handcuffed uber-tight with electrical wire, or would you rather see a fight scene between her and claire? and how was HRG supposed to know her lightning bolts had that kind of range, anyway?

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