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alright, spoke to the casino. Told them the situation and that I didnt realize until I went home and counted the money in my wallet. Told them I dont want the cashier getting in trouble, but I can only bring it back tomorrow. Luckily I remember the time I cashed out and which cage it was so they can tell at the end of the day by whichever of the 3 counts is off by 100. Gave them my name and address, told them id be by tomorrow and meet with a manager and take care of it. So well see what happens

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Solid Brag.

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Coming from someone who used to work in a casino (Winstar)

If a dealer comes up short in the chip tray, they pay it with their tips

If a banker comes up short in their bank, it comes out of their own pocket

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Then you should have filed a complaint, because that is illegal

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lol

This is what happens: you file a complaint, you never hear from the people in charge of reviewing complaints. Or if you do they say "it's been taken care of", you never get the money you paid back, nothing changes. That's how reality works.

Want to challenge it? Speak up? Guess what, you're fired. But they can't fire me over defending my legal rights! Too bad, you're fired. Out the door. Goodbye.

Your recourse? Spend a lot of money ($20k was quoted as average in my union book when I worked at a supermarket, though it has motivation to exaggerate) or a long winded wrongful firing suit. Even if you win you'll get basically nothing, especially as you are going up against the govt (casino owned by govt). Really following this court method is only profitable if you made a lot of money at your job - some $10 or $15 / h cashier just isn't going to A) have the capital to undertake and it B) if he does, will likely only win a few weeks or months wages, probably less than his court costs. And that's if you win.

So yeah, complaints and rights are nice on paper but have no bearing in an actual working environment.

Oh, and by the way, if you do follow the expensive wrongful firing route, they'll just say that you were fired for some small detail or whatever. And yes, no employee is perfect, everyone has some tiny fault. You'll be officially fired for whatever that is, not for being a nuisance and breaking their status quo by standing up for yourself.

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MONTREAL BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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jesus - so like 80% of the side who thinks he should give the money back is saying so because the cashier might lose his job? wtf is wrong with you guys?

also anhuld - i didn't know it was such a hassle to go back there. i think you can call them back tomorrow and just tell them you are sending them a check and ask how it should be addressed etc. even though you should be accountable, it's still a casino mistake.

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Coming from someone who used to work in a casino (Winstar)

If a dealer comes up short in the chip tray, they pay it with their tips

If a banker comes up short in their bank, it comes out of their own pocket

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Then you should have filed a complaint, because that is illegal

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lol

This is what happens: you file a complaint, you never hear from the people in charge of reviewing complaints. Or if you do they say "it's been taken care of", you never get the money you paid back, nothing changes. That's how reality works.

Want to challenge it? Speak up? Guess what, you're fired. But they can't fire me over defending my legal rights! Too bad, you're fired. Out the door. Goodbye.

Your recourse? Spend a lot of money ($20k was quoted as average in my union book when I worked at a supermarket, though it has motivation to exaggerate) or a long winded wrongful firing suit. Even if you win you'll get basically nothing, especially as you are going up against the govt (casino owned by govt). Really following this court method is only profitable if you made a lot of money at your job - some $10 or $15 / h cashier just isn't going to A) have the capital to undertake and it B) if he does, will likely only win a few weeks or months wages, probably less than his court costs. And that's if you win.

So yeah, complaints and rights are nice on paper but have no bearing in an actual working environment.

Oh, and by the way, if you do follow the expensive wrongful firing route, they'll just say that you were fired for some small detail or whatever. And yes, no employee is perfect, everyone has some tiny fault. You'll be officially fired for whatever that is, not for being a nuisance and breaking their status quo by standing up for yourself.



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wow, you have no idea what you are talking about

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Coming from someone who used to work in a casino (Winstar)

If a dealer comes up short in the chip tray, they pay it with their tips

If a banker comes up short in their bank, it comes out of their own pocket

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Then you should have filed a complaint, because that is illegal

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lol

This is what happens: you file a complaint, you never hear from the people in charge of reviewing complaints. Or if you do they say "it's been taken care of", you never get the money you paid back, nothing changes. That's how reality works.

Want to challenge it? Speak up? Guess what, you're fired. But they can't fire me over defending my legal rights! Too bad, you're fired. Out the door. Goodbye.

Your recourse? Spend a lot of money ($20k was quoted as average in my union book when I worked at a supermarket, though it has motivation to exaggerate) or a long winded wrongful firing suit. Even if you win you'll get basically nothing, especially as you are going up against the govt (casino owned by govt). Really following this court method is only profitable if you made a lot of money at your job - some $10 or $15 / h cashier just isn't going to A) have the capital to undertake and it B) if he does, will likely only win a few weeks or months wages, probably less than his court costs. And that's if you win.

So yeah, complaints and rights are nice on paper but have no bearing in an actual working environment.

Oh, and by the way, if you do follow the expensive wrongful firing route, they'll just say that you were fired for some small detail or whatever. And yes, no employee is perfect, everyone has some tiny fault. You'll be officially fired for whatever that is, not for being a nuisance and breaking their status quo by standing up for yourself.



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wow, you probably are not a republican

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If you're cool with pulling one over on the casino, I guess the next step is an actual heist.

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lol? you're a moran if not levelling.

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lol back at you for message board lingo with 242 posts. It's almost like you're one of the gang now!

Also, I am halfway leveling. I believe it is dishonest to rip off an institution, even a dishonest one. Integrity is a rare quality and it doesn't make much sense to sell it for a hundred dollars, much less to brag about it. At the same time, I would like to see an "Ahnuld's Thirteen" photoshop.

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If you read any of my earlier posts (i'm sure you skipped them over as i only have 240 posts so i'm clearly stupid) then you'd see that i thought it was silly to brag about it also.

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natural selection pls

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Coming from someone who used to work in a casino (Winstar)

If a dealer comes up short in the chip tray, they pay it with their tips

If a banker comes up short in their bank, it comes out of their own pocket

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Then you should have filed a complaint, because that is illegal

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lol

This is what happens: you file a complaint, you never hear from the people in charge of reviewing complaints. Or if you do they say "it's been taken care of", you never get the money you paid back, nothing changes. That's how reality works.

Want to challenge it? Speak up? Guess what, you're fired. But they can't fire me over defending my legal rights! Too bad, you're fired. Out the door. Goodbye.

Your recourse? Spend a lot of money ($20k was quoted as average in my union book when I worked at a supermarket, though it has motivation to exaggerate) or a long winded wrongful firing suit. Even if you win you'll get basically nothing, especially as you are going up against the govt (casino owned by govt). Really following this court method is only profitable if you made a lot of money at your job - some $10 or $15 / h cashier just isn't going to A) have the capital to undertake and it B) if he does, will likely only win a few weeks or months wages, probably less than his court costs. And that's if you win.

So yeah, complaints and rights are nice on paper but have no bearing in an actual working environment.

Oh, and by the way, if you do follow the expensive wrongful firing route, they'll just say that you were fired for some small detail or whatever. And yes, no employee is perfect, everyone has some tiny fault. You'll be officially fired for whatever that is, not for being a nuisance and breaking their status quo by standing up for yourself.



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wow, you have no idea what you are talking about

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Or you're just massively naive and believe the government is out to love and protect you.

Your complaint is important to us, we value your input. Please hold.

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If you read any of my earlier posts (i'm sure you skipped them over as i only have 240 posts so i'm clearly stupid)

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Admitting it is the first step to recovery.

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Coming from someone who used to work in a casino (Winstar)

If a dealer comes up short in the chip tray, they pay it with their tips

If a banker comes up short in their bank, it comes out of their own pocket

[/ QUOTE ]

Then you should have filed a complaint, because that is illegal

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lol

This is what happens: you file a complaint, you never hear from the people in charge of reviewing complaints. Or if you do they say "it's been taken care of", you never get the money you paid back, nothing changes. That's how reality works.

Want to challenge it? Speak up? Guess what, you're fired. But they can't fire me over defending my legal rights! Too bad, you're fired. Out the door. Goodbye.

Your recourse? Spend a lot of money ($20k was quoted as average in my union book when I worked at a supermarket, though it has motivation to exaggerate) or a long winded wrongful firing suit. Even if you win you'll get basically nothing, especially as you are going up against the govt (casino owned by govt). Really following this court method is only profitable if you made a lot of money at your job - some $10 or $15 / h cashier just isn't going to A) have the capital to undertake and it B) if he does, will likely only win a few weeks or months wages, probably less than his court costs. And that's if you win.

So yeah, complaints and rights are nice on paper but have no bearing in an actual working environment.

Oh, and by the way, if you do follow the expensive wrongful firing route, they'll just say that you were fired for some small detail or whatever. And yes, no employee is perfect, everyone has some tiny fault. You'll be officially fired for whatever that is, not for being a nuisance and breaking their status quo by standing up for yourself.



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wow, you have no idea what you are talking about

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can you expand? you just very curtly dismissed a post that seemed pretty reasonable and informed.

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jesus - so like 80% of the side who thinks he should give the money back is saying so because the cashier might lose his job? wtf is wrong with you guys?

also anhuld - i didn't know it was such a hassle to go back there. i think you can call them back tomorrow and just tell them you are sending them a check and ask how it should be addressed etc. even though you should be accountable, it's still a casino mistake.

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wait, to clarify: if this was somehow accidentally taken from the casino and the employee had no chance of getting in trouble, you would still return it?

thats just insane imo

i would consider a higher morale stance to be to just donate it to a small charity rather than return the $ to add .00000000000000000000001% to the casinos profits for the day

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i suspect that in the long run, you'll lose $100 as often as you gain $100.

so, if you think the other party would track you down and return the difference, you should do the same if you want an EV of 0.

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i suspect that in the long run, you'll lose $100 as often as you gain $100

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This is definitely not true. Most customers would at least politely point out the problem, if not flip a [censored] like many people I know have done.

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Coming from someone who used to work in a casino (Winstar)

If a dealer comes up short in the chip tray, they pay it with their tips

If a banker comes up short in their bank, it comes out of their own pocket

[/ QUOTE ]

Then you should have filed a complaint, because that is illegal

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lol

This is what happens: you file a complaint, you never hear from the people in charge of reviewing complaints. Or if you do they say "it's been taken care of", you never get the money you paid back, nothing changes. That's how reality works.

Want to challenge it? Speak up? Guess what, you're fired. But they can't fire me over defending my legal rights! Too bad, you're fired. Out the door. Goodbye.

Your recourse? Spend a lot of money ($20k was quoted as average in my union book when I worked at a supermarket, though it has motivation to exaggerate) or a long winded wrongful firing suit. Even if you win you'll get basically nothing, especially as you are going up against the govt (casino owned by govt). Really following this court method is only profitable if you made a lot of money at your job - some $10 or $15 / h cashier just isn't going to A) have the capital to undertake and it B) if he does, will likely only win a few weeks or months wages, probably less than his court costs. And that's if you win.

So yeah, complaints and rights are nice on paper but have no bearing in an actual working environment.

Oh, and by the way, if you do follow the expensive wrongful firing route, they'll just say that you were fired for some small detail or whatever. And yes, no employee is perfect, everyone has some tiny fault. You'll be officially fired for whatever that is, not for being a nuisance and breaking their status quo by standing up for yourself.



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I would have simply avoided all of this by just saying "[censored] you I quit" the second they said I had to pay the shortage.

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this thread is retarded

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this thread is retarded

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you remind me of this thread

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alright, spoke to the casino. Told them the situation and that I didnt realize until I went home and counted the money in my wallet. Told them I dont want the cashier getting in trouble, but I can only bring it back tomorrow. Luckily I remember the time I cashed out and which cage it was so they can tell at the end of the day by whichever of the 3 counts is off by 100. Gave them my name and address, told them id be by tomorrow and meet with a manager and take care of it. So well see what happens

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Solid gayness/retardedness.

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this thread is retarded

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you remind me of this thread

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ima cut u

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Coming from someone who used to work in a casino (Winstar)

If a dealer comes up short in the chip tray, they pay it with their tips

If a banker comes up short in their bank, it comes out of their own pocket

[/ QUOTE ]

Then you should have filed a complaint, because that is illegal

[/ QUOTE ]

lol

This is what happens: you file a complaint, you never hear from the people in charge of reviewing complaints. Or if you do they say "it's been taken care of", you never get the money you paid back, nothing changes. That's how reality works.

Want to challenge it? Speak up? Guess what, you're fired. But they can't fire me over defending my legal rights! Too bad, you're fired. Out the door. Goodbye.

Your recourse? Spend a lot of money ($20k was quoted as average in my union book when I worked at a supermarket, though it has motivation to exaggerate) or a long winded wrongful firing suit. Even if you win you'll get basically nothing, especially as you are going up against the govt (casino owned by govt). Really following this court method is only profitable if you made a lot of money at your job - some $10 or $15 / h cashier just isn't going to A) have the capital to undertake and it B) if he does, will likely only win a few weeks or months wages, probably less than his court costs. And that's if you win.

So yeah, complaints and rights are nice on paper but have no bearing in an actual working environment.

Oh, and by the way, if you do follow the expensive wrongful firing route, they'll just say that you were fired for some small detail or whatever. And yes, no employee is perfect, everyone has some tiny fault. You'll be officially fired for whatever that is, not for being a nuisance and breaking their status quo by standing up for yourself.



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I would have simply avoided all of this by just saying "[censored] you I quit" the second they said I had to pay the shortage.

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Thing is if you are working this job you usually can't afford to not be working it.

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They don't get in trouble for this. Cashiers are bonded, insured against errors like this. It happens all the time, and it's part of the price of doing business for casinos. Some insurance company somewhere will eat that loss.

Everyone here should remember that when you're the recipient of a favorable pay-out error on the part of a casino employee, be it a cashier, a blackjack dealer, or whoever else. In the case of a table game, it will just get lumped in with the table hold (reducing it by whatever amount) and will never be discovered. In the case of a cashier or someone working the floor like a slot change person, the casino is aware humans make mistakes and they are insured against it. The chance that "you get someone fired" because you don't alert them to their pay-out error is virtually nil.

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If this is true then [censored] the casino. It`s owned by the government so consider it a tax rebate.



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It's not.

You'd have to be a pretty scummy person to make someone lose their job over $100.

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It's definitely true in Nevada. I don't know about casinos in Canada or wherever else. In fact, you can't even get an unrestricted gaming license (the type needed for table games) in Nevada without having your cashiers be bonded. Generally speaking, other jurisdictions tend to copy Nevada gaming law in most areas, so I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case more universally than just in Nevada.

Try talking to a cage manager if you don't believe me. That's where I got my information. You'll see.

Beyond that, quit being so histrionic; a cashier isn't going to lose his job over a $100 mistake in any half-way respectable casino (one with a poker room, for instance).

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This is stupid.

Put the extra $100 on Black
If you win, give them $100.

If you lose, they got it back...they just didn't know.

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genius

btw. according to this thread it's +EV for the cashier to stiff $100? variance?

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this sort of thing costs people their job.

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WTF sort of country do you folks live in that allows the employer to hold employees financially responsible for a miscount?

Here in Australia, it is illegal for employers to make those sort of rules. Someone paid a few dollars an hour is going to make a mistake, and that's a cost of business.

The employee shouldn't be made liable to pay it back - otherwise it would be necessary to have credit checks on your employees who handle large amounts of money (since they'd be supposedly liable if they miscounted a few k or something)

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Actually if a casino employee did this in Australia they'd be fired on the spot for gross negligence.

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Actually if a casino employee did this in Australia they'd be fired on the spot for gross negligence.


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No they wouldn't.

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I can't really be bothered searching Austlii so I'll just say my Aunt was. Go her.

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Actually if a casino employee did this in Australia they'd be fired on the spot for gross negligence.


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No they wouldn't.

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Wait a minute... weren't you the guy I saw in the all-state debate team finals?

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Australian law relating to the termination of employment:
https://www.workchoices.gov.au/NR/rdonly..._employment.pdf


More serious business in BBV please.

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Australian law relating to the termination of employment:
https://www.workchoices.gov.au/NR/rdonly..._employment.pdf


More serious business in BBV please.

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Huh? That says nothing about this whatsoever. I give up troll.

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They don't get in trouble for this. Cashiers are bonded, insured against errors like this. It happens all the time, and it's part of the price of doing business for casinos. Some insurance company somewhere will eat that loss.

Everyone here should remember that when you're the recipient of a favorable pay-out error on the part of a casino employee, be it a cashier, a blackjack dealer, or whoever else. In the case of a table game, it will just get lumped in with the table hold (reducing it by whatever amount) and will never be discovered. In the case of a cashier or someone working the floor like a slot change person, the casino is aware humans make mistakes and they are insured against it. The chance that "you get someone fired" because you don't alert them to their pay-out error is virtually nil.

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If this is true then [censored] the casino. It`s owned by the government so consider it a tax rebate.



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It's not.

You'd have to be a pretty scummy person to make someone lose their job over $100.

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It's definitely true in Nevada. I don't know about casinos in Canada or wherever else. In fact, you can't even get an unrestricted gaming license (the type needed for table games) in Nevada without having your cashiers be bonded. Generally speaking, other jurisdictions tend to copy Nevada gaming law in most areas, so I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case more universally than just in Nevada.

Try talking to a cage manager if you don't believe me. That's where I got my information. You'll see.

Beyond that, quit being so histrionic; a cashier isn't going to lose his job over a $100 mistake in any half-way respectable casino (one with a poker room, for instance).

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If Casino Montreal is anything like Casino de Lac Leamy in Gatineau, and I'm sure it is since they're owned by the same company, it wouldn't have a poker room because of legality issues, and the casino isn't exactly the most morally sound one of its kind. I wouldn't put it past someone losing their job.

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I'm pretty sure I would have kept it, but Im also sure that ahnuld is a true balla.

nh

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meh employee natural selection

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pretty sure this is the worst thread ive ever seen here.

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pretty sure this is the worst thread ive ever seen here.

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good thing you showed up to make it better

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good thing you showed up to make it better

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http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3...6284330mp3.jpg

satisfied?

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wow what is it with people saying to pay it back!?!?!?! I consider myself a pretty ethical dude but they aren't going to miss it and you aren't going to help the cashier by going back and pointing it out

casinos are scumbag corporations that win money off people not childrens cancer charitys. Taxi straight to the nudie bar with the hundo for a dance...

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funny thing is, that most likely, dude's till is off, mistakte is noted, or not, by whatever manager is on duty and the case is forgotten.

instead, OP has talked to whoever asnwered the phone and explained the situation. Whoever he talked to is like, "wow, that's nuts, this dude is acutaly going to come give it back??!? wtf???" and tells anyone who cares and a few who don't. So, now the whole casino staff knows and its still probably not that big a deal, so..... whatever.

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it's funny how OP was expecting all sorts of "props" for this, and when he just got flamed he let himself be peer pressured into copping out and giving back the money.

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Karma.

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Don't exist, 'cept in your head.