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yellowjack 10-23-2007 10:45 PM

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He was also on a couple eps of UCP if anyone wants to pull up a link to those. I remember one hand where he lost like a 300k pot to admo.
sweaty phil 33
admo JJ

flop AJ3

admo bets. sweaty phil comes over the top all in. admo says im not good enough to lay this down and calls.

well played?
u tell me...

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someone find this please?

yellowjack 10-23-2007 10:46 PM

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He was also on a couple eps of UCP if anyone wants to pull up a link to those. I remember one hand where he lost like a 300k pot to admo.
sweaty phil 33
admo JJ

flop AJ3

admo bets. sweaty phil comes over the top all in. admo says im not good enough to lay this down and calls.

well played?
u tell me...

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someone find this please?

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here you go

http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?t...nnel=901590594

shipitkthx 10-24-2007 01:53 AM

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Sigh...so many issues could have been avoided by challenging Helmuth HU4ROLLZ

shipitkthx 10-24-2007 01:55 AM

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lol @ people wanting jman to play -ev poker just to get more TV time like sammy.

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As Doyle said, you have to give action to get action. Jman didn't give any action, and thus he lost his action. Even Sklansky himself wrote in TOP that sometimes for political reasons you should play suboptimal poker to really maximize your EV in a larger sense.

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Do you realize in almost every televised hand it was 18-20k to go before it even got to him??

shipitkthx 10-24-2007 01:58 AM

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He even played JJ passively. Not even raising pre with position on Sammy and Hellmuth?

WTF


I like the guy, I do but I think it was a terrible representation of what he was trying to represent - online high stake balla's

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You want the guy to re-raise JJ while the entire table is discussing how much of a nit he is???

Daliman 10-24-2007 02:02 AM

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Sigh...so many issues could have been avoided by challenging Helmuth HU4ROLLZ

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Not really. PH is notorious for offering to play people for 100k-1M, getting an affirmative response, and then backing down when the guy shows he's not kidding. But it would have at least further outlined how much of a punk PH is.

Chilltown 10-24-2007 02:54 AM

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He even played JJ passively. Not even raising pre with position on Sammy and Hellmuth?

WTF


I like the guy, I do but I think it was a terrible representation of what he was trying to represent - online high stake balla's

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You want the guy to re-raise JJ while the entire table is discussing how much of a nit he is???

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I love the Eric lindgren line from season 2..."In no limit hold em sometimes we vary our play". Plus the undisputed king of nits raised.

jmill2511 10-24-2007 03:14 AM

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what a weak performance from Galfond. If you would have put some tight 0,5-1 NL Grinder in his seat the results would have been the same. Standard ABC poker and no talking is not what people want to see. lol @ showing how the online high roller are way better than the big live names.

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[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] how stupid this post is. Good to know the game will always be profitable.

shipitkthx 10-24-2007 03:52 AM

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Sigh...so many issues could have been avoided by challenging Helmuth HU4ROLLZ

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Not really. PH is notorious for offering to play people for 100k-1M, getting an affirmative response, and then backing down when the guy shows he's not kidding. But it would have at least further outlined how much of a punk PH is.

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The thing is that when PH calls him out, if PG challenges him HU4ROLLZ it makes a huge TV moment as PH is called out, and pretty much guarantees PG a spot on Day 3.

PokerSoccer 10-24-2007 04:08 AM

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Sigh...so many issues could have been avoided by challenging Helmuth HU4ROLLZ

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Not really. PH is notorious for offering to play people for 100k-1M, getting an affirmative response, and then backing down when the guy shows he's not kidding. But it would have at least further outlined how much of a punk PH is.

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The thing is that when PH calls him out, if PG challenges him HU4ROLLZ it makes a huge TV moment as PH is called out, and pretty much guarantees PG a spot on Day 3.

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i sooooo wanted to hear that "HU4ROLLZ PHIL??"

What? 10-24-2007 04:26 AM

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He was also on a couple eps of UCP if anyone wants to pull up a link to those. I remember one hand where he lost like a 300k pot to admo.
sweaty phil 33
admo JJ

flop AJ3

admo bets. sweaty phil comes over the top all in. admo says im not good enough to lay this down and calls.

well played?
u tell me...

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someone find this please?

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I think this was the same episode Admo hit a set of queens against Chad Browns pocket aces for another huge pot. Admo made a killin on that show.

imabigdeal 10-24-2007 04:35 AM

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this isn't about what's +ev for galfond... it's about what's +ev for gsn

inyourface 10-24-2007 05:06 AM

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He even played JJ passively. Not even raising pre with position on Sammy and Hellmuth?

WTF


I like the guy, I do but I think it was a terrible representation of what he was trying to represent - online high stake balla's

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You want the guy to re-raise JJ while the entire table is discussing how much of a nit he is???

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Obviously, hence what I posted above.

Even Gabe Kaplan commented on it, he blew his chance and won't have helped anymore internet pro's get on the show. At least Brian Townsend had a laugh and gambled it up

[Phill] 10-24-2007 05:17 AM

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Sigh...so many issues could have been avoided by challenging Helmuth HU4ROLLZ

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Not really. PH is notorious for offering to play people for 100k-1M, getting an affirmative response, and then backing down when the guy shows he's not kidding. But it would have at least further outlined how much of a punk PH is.

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The thing is that when PH calls him out, if PG challenges him HU4ROLLZ it makes a huge TV moment as PH is called out, and pretty much guarantees PG a spot on Day 3.

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i sooooo wanted to hear that "HU4ROLLZ PHIL??"

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I said this to my housemate when we watched it last week and they showed this weeks highlight with Hellmuth on about the stuff about billionaires and PG being a nit.

Ironically challenging PH to HU freezeout would have been massively +EV as he may get the HU match and it increases his chances of being invited back next day.

That said, he was told he was definately playing the next day anyway, and probably didnt want to rock the boat by basically calling PH a pussy.

Daddy Warbucks 10-24-2007 05:20 AM

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Sigh...so many issues could have been avoided by challenging Helmuth HU4ROLLZ

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Not really. PH is notorious for offering to play people for 100k-1M, getting an affirmative response, and then backing down when the guy shows he's not kidding. But it would have at least further outlined how much of a punk PH is.

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Never on TV though, i don't think?

Bukem_ 10-24-2007 05:45 AM

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wow its really lame how much you donks hate on someone. Did you watch some of that play? That was some of the worst poker I've ever seen at any stakes. Phil thought he had the seat locked up in probably the juiciest lineup he will ever a chance to play at stakes that high. I'm sure if he knew he was risking that seat he would have shown some gamble to make sure he would get the seat.

bottomset 10-24-2007 05:50 AM

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wow its really lame how much you donks hate on someone. Did you watch some of that play? That was some of the worst poker I've ever seen at any stakes. Phil thought he had the seat locked up in probably the juiciest lineup he will ever a chance to play at stakes that high. I'm sure if he knew he was risking that seat he would have shown some gamble to make sure he would get the seat.

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should have gambled some anyway(he would have had no trouble at all selling action if he fell below 500k)

yaaam1484 10-24-2007 11:36 AM

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wow its really lame how much you donks hate on someone. Did you watch some of that play? That was some of the worst poker I've ever seen at any stakes. Phil thought he had the seat locked up in probably the juiciest lineup he will ever a chance to play at stakes that high. I'm sure if he knew he was risking that seat he would have shown some gamble to make sure he would get the seat.

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should have gambled some anyway(he would have had no trouble at all selling action if he fell below 500k)

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lol.. wouldnt even cross his mind to sell action with that lineup.. he had a deal about getting in the 500k buyin

anyway this is his job, imo it was a bad "job interview" as he should have known that the nitty play/no talking would get him off the air pretty fast even after the 500k buyin unless he made a million on J high or something like that.. i dont understand why he didnt think of that, as a good poker player he should do anything to be in the game

bones 10-24-2007 01:46 PM

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wow its really lame how much you donks hate on someone. Did you watch some of that play? That was some of the worst poker I've ever seen at any stakes. Phil thought he had the seat locked up in probably the juiciest lineup he will ever a chance to play at stakes that high. I'm sure if he knew he was risking that seat he would have shown some gamble to make sure he would get the seat.

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should have gambled some anyway(he would have had no trouble at all selling action if he fell below 500k)

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lol.. wouldnt even cross his mind to sell action with that lineup.. he had a deal about getting in the 500k buyin

anyway this is his job, imo it was a bad "job interview" as he should have known that the nitty play/no talking would get him off the air pretty fast even after the 500k buyin unless he made a million on J high or something like that.. i dont understand why he didnt think of that, as a good poker player he should do anything to be in the game

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Are you people actually retarded? He did "do anything to be in the game." He played tighter than he probably would have liked so he could honor his commitment to play on day 3. You think for one second he wouldn't have put 500k on THAT table if he didn't already commit to day 3 for 500? The lineup had Jamie Gold and Sam Farha ffs.

markksman 10-27-2007 09:51 PM

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I think it is important to know what game you are playing. This was more than just some fill-in cash game killing time for a few hours.

It was an audition and an opportunity to potentially opening himself up to winning a lot more money in the long run. He seems confident in his abilities against a lot of these players.... but he blew an opportunity to get more chances and exposure to play with them...

So in essence he was not playing the game that was at the table. If that meant he was playing -EV and dropped 150k loosing it up, so what.. if he really felt he could take these players it would have been more than worth it.

Defending him because he made the right technical moves for any generic hand of poker does not defend him for the mistakes he made in the bigger picture.

I suspect even if he never played on Day 2 he was not going to get the call on Day 3. The same Pros would have pushed him out.

Carpe Diem.

Perhaps there was no real opportunity there and perhaps he would have just lost money in the long run getting into that circle. He doesn't give the impression he felt that way... so again, if that was the case, he played it all wrong. Doesn't matter how many hours, how many hands or anything else.

JDesab 10-27-2007 10:38 PM

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he was trying to play really conservative the first day because he wanted to put 500k on the table 2nd day, which he was promised to be on, but the producer changed his mind

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yes .. this excuse has been reiterated 1000 times already.

those who are not idol worshippers at this jman's feet all see what you refuse to.

also... Sammy is tilting... how can you be afraid to mix it up with him. oh i forgot.. it's -ev... it's -ev.

take your -ev and stick in your .....

btw... i'm new .. but to me a balla doesn't sound like a guy that plays the style that this guy showed. in that case.. hellmuth must be a hella-balla.

Pudge714 10-28-2007 01:11 AM

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Jman,
Explain this to me. You were only promised to play on day 2 wouldn't it have made sense to do crazy stuff perhaps punch someone in the face or throw food at someone so you could make it on the Day 3 show where you weren't promised a spot?


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