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MrWookie 09-11-2007 11:48 PM

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I was working on it off-and-on since July, somewhere between 10-15 hrs of actually doing it.

Blarg 09-12-2007 11:30 AM

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Comparable amounts of alcohol from beer will run you 100-150 calories or so, maybe more for some really sweet beers like anything given the name imperial, lambics, tripels, and quadrupels. The fact that a beer doesn't add all that much on top of the base alcohol calories. If you're really concerned, the only solution is to drink less. On the other hand, beer isn't that much worse than anything else, since the stuff in beer doesn't add that much more to your waistline than the alcohol. If you're going to drink a certain amount of alcohol, you can do it with two lite beers or one good beer, and the two will have comparable caloric content. Might as well drink something that tastes better, right? I'd check out the beer styles you enjoy, and then perhaps explore some others of the same style that have lower alcohol content.

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150 calories per beer? No problemo! I will just cut out my daily bagel/swiss cheese and substitute a beer in the evening. I don't like light beers. I prefer ambers.

Curious, do you know how many calories are in a glass of Guinness? I think it tastes like burnt caramel. It's super thick and heavy.

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If that's either your breakfast or your lunch, that's a pretty bad idea.

Mrs. Utah 09-12-2007 12:29 PM

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OMG! Blarg has an avatar! Cool! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

katyseagull 09-12-2007 01:23 PM

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Who is in your avatar, Blarg? What's gotten into you?!

SoloAJ 09-12-2007 01:37 PM

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I just came into this thread to say "Blarg has an avatar. WTF, blarg isn't supposed to have an avatar."

For some reason, I don't approve. I guess I need some time to get used to it.

Hah.

tuq 09-12-2007 01:43 PM

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My understanding is that Blarg's had an avatar for a year or so now, but it's basically been a "non avatar", a blank box. He has avatars turned off IIRC so someone could have put one in his profile and he'd never know unless someone asked him about it.

Blarg 09-12-2007 01:44 PM

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It was given to me by someone else, this is the first I've seen it. I have no idea what it is. The guy is under a statute of "The Thinker," and looking at something, but I don't know what it is. And there looks like there's a nameplate or something, but I can't read it, it's too small.

Was asked to return it if I don't like it. How do I do that?

katyseagull 09-12-2007 01:45 PM

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haha! nice.

tuq 09-12-2007 01:48 PM

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The guy in the pic is Jose Maria Aznar, a former Spanish President. I guess the Thinker thing is related to Blarg's posts, dunno. I suck at interpreting things.

MrWookie 09-12-2007 01:53 PM

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I didn't think this statue was The Thinker. The statue in Blarg's avatar looks more like some guy who's disgusted or anguished about something.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8...pimage0pe8.jpg

I thought this was The Thinker:

http://www.laits.utexas.edu/hebrew/p...es/thinker.gif

tuq 09-12-2007 01:56 PM

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Wookie,

Oh yeah, LDO. Someone mentioned the Thinker and I didn't THINK any more about it, LOLOLOL. Power of suggestion and all that.

Blarg 09-12-2007 02:33 PM

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Oh you're right, it's a Lebron play. (Not that I know who he is, just that he pops up as one in every ten posts in BBV4L.) Shows that the stuff here is too small.

MrWookie 09-12-2007 03:58 PM

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So, you think that in the Lounge, we should start using the expressions of statues (or perhaps any famous artwork) where BBV4L would use a pic of Lebron?

Blarg 09-12-2007 04:35 PM

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If the statues are made of jello, then yes, because here in the Lounge, we're flexible, bouncy, and in some inexpressible way vaguely obscene.

diebitter 09-12-2007 04:47 PM

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How about this?

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/136138908-L.jpg

Blarg 09-12-2007 04:55 PM

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This looks ready to staple deliciousness into the TPS report of my day.

MrWookie 09-12-2007 05:35 PM

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If the statues are made of jello, then yes, because here in the Lounge, we're flexible, bouncy, and in some inexpressible way vaguely obscene.

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http://www.slrobertson.com/images/ca...r-buddha-b.jpg

SoloAJ 09-12-2007 08:45 PM

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I feel better now. Whew.

I just want to mention that the McDonald's lawsuit picking up steam has me more confused than ever with society. McDonald's is trying to blame the girl, not the asst. manager?

This combined with the vice principle thing katy posted...just wow. Our world is crazy!

daveT 09-13-2007 07:57 PM

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So, I went and got my foot x-rayed yesterday. Can't wait until next week when I can know what is going on with it. Doc thinks it is arthritis, but that doesn't help explain the lack of function in it. It's not coming off, thank goodness.

Yes, Mrs. Utah, the compliment was out of place and random, but I wouldn't know a better place to put it.

entertainme 09-14-2007 12:17 AM

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Explain what's going on with your foot. I missed this somehow.

Also, alert to WI and MN drivers: The Boy is now driving, currently with his permit. You have been warned. (Actually he's doing pretty well for just getting started.)

Fishwhenican 09-14-2007 07:57 AM

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Also, alert to WI and MN drivers: The Boy is now driving, currently with his permit. You have been warned. (Actually he's doing pretty well for just getting started.)

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My daughter just got her license a month or so ago and I am still not at all used to it!!! Kids start driving (legally) when they are 15 here in MT and it just scares me to death to have her out driving by herself. I do not know if I will ever get over this!!!!

On ther other hand it is VERY nice to not have to drive her around and she helps out getting her brother back home after football practice which saves us a 40 mile trip (one way) every day to go get him. So at least there is an up side to it. Still doesn't make me feel better though, really.

diebitter 09-14-2007 08:11 AM

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15 seems very young for driving!

Says the guy who comes from the country where you can have consensual sex from 16 upwards, and drink from 18 upwards. Driving is 17, btw.

entertainme 09-14-2007 12:27 PM

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Well Fish, this is our second one through the process. In WI you can get your license at 16 after having a permit for 6 months first, and putting in the required hours driving with parent and instructor. (Of course, farm kids can get it earlier.) We also have a graduated license, so they can only drive with one friend in the car and only during certain hours for the first year. I think it's a good thing.

This is our second time through and hopefully the first year of driving will be less expensive than it was for The Girl. She totaled my van two months after getting her license, (black ice on a curve on the way to school.) Of course, the important thing is no one was hurt.

Both our kids were way less anxious to start driving than we were at their age and I have a nephew who just got his license at 18. We've been debating the reason they're not screaming for the independence like we were. Have everything they need at home? The expense? It's a mystery to me.

Blarg 09-14-2007 12:47 PM

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When I was a kid, the alternative was walking, biking, or staying home. Do your kids have another alternative, like driving?

Also, staying home was different when every kid didn't have his own t.v. and computer and nintendo. Staying home meant reading a book or being assigned endless make-work chores.

Fishwhenican 09-14-2007 03:49 PM

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My daughter was every bit as anxious to start driving as I was at her age.

I think part of it is the place where we live. Distance is a whole different things here. There is one girl living near us that is her age and they are friends but not really close friends. Her school is 40 miles away and so her whole focus and social life is a pretty good distance away. Driving makes her feel closer to that stuff. Still just scares the heck out of me.

katyseagull 09-14-2007 07:04 PM

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Yo, DaveT!


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entertainme and I want to know what's going on with your foot. What are your symptoms?

entertainme 09-14-2007 08:16 PM

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Do your kids have another alternative, like driving?

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Busted. The deal we made is we were happy to drive him around, pick up his friends, etc. with the only requirement that he put in his best effort at school.

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Also, staying home was different when every kid didn't have his own t.v. and computer and nintendo. Staying home meant reading a book or being assigned endless make-work chores.

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Busted again. His own Mac, PS3, (shared with Dad), his guitar, 40 acres to ride the 4 or 6 wheeler on. In our defense, the only one of these he can do in his room is the guitar, (and he usually sits at the computer when he plays anyway.)

Edit: I would hate his school bus ride though, an hour each way. This year he only rides in the morning. Half day at school, half day of online school at home.

daveT 09-14-2007 08:19 PM

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Well, according to my papers from the doctor: Patient says he cannot dorsiflex r ft.... now pull out that word on the scrabble board.

For whatever reason, I am not able to lift the front of my foot, if that makes sense. The opposite of the achilles tendon is not working, if that helps the visual. The front of my ankle hurts like ####. Walking is hard because my foot scrapes them clomps down on the ground. Very attractive sound.

But you didn't miss anything entertainme, I ne'er mentioned my foot.

We don't know what it is yet. All that is known is that I apparently injured it several times, and I have some arthritis in it. They know about the arthritis because of the clicking noise when they press on my bones (this hurts).

They gave me some drugs: 500mg of Tylenol, and capsaicin, which is a very very hot pepper (as in DO NOT EAT). I put a dab of this stuff on my ankle twice a day and my whole shin burns... the gel is only made of .025% of this stuff. Of coarse, that is why they gave me the Tylenol. I guess that experience shows that with reduced swelling comes increased pain.

I think the doctor sort of beat-around-the-bush asked me if I wanted a cane. Uh, NO!

entertainme 09-14-2007 08:21 PM

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My daughter was every bit as anxious to start driving as I was at her age.

I think part of it is the place where we live. Distance is a whole different things here. There is one girl living near us that is her age and they are friends but not really close friends. Her school is 40 miles away and so her whole focus and social life is a pretty good distance away. Driving makes her feel closer to that stuff. Still just scares the heck out of me.

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We're 15 minutes from town, but I can understand how 40 would be more difficult.

I can totally empathize. A lot of prayer in those early driving days for me! (And that's with good kids - imagine if you knew your kids were wild to start with - not that they'd be getting my car keys in that case.)

entertainme 09-14-2007 08:23 PM

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Any numbness, tingling? Have you been tested for diabetes?

daveT 09-14-2007 08:26 PM

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Any numbness, tingling? Have you been tested for diabetes?

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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

What, do want me to die or something?

No, ma'am, nothing of the sort.

Blarg 09-14-2007 08:48 PM

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Do you ever wake up and see a robed and hooded figure with a big scythe reaching toward you with an outstretched bony hand, who suddenly disappears after seeming to radiate thwarted disappointment?

Mrs. Utah 09-14-2007 08:57 PM

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Do you ever wake up and see a robed and hooded figure with a big scythe reaching toward you with an outstretched bony hand, who suddenly disappears after seeming to radiate thwarted disappointment?

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Kind of like this guy?

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8...nddeathrk4.jpg

katyseagull 09-14-2007 08:58 PM

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Sorry about your foot problems, daveT. That's very puzzling. I'm going to go look up a picture of the human leg right now and try to get to the bottom of this.

katyseagull 09-14-2007 09:36 PM

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http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3...nanat02bi5.jpg


Ok so I take it the problem is with the posterior tibial tendon? Sounds like you tore it. What on earth were you up to that resulted in such a weird injury? Basketball or something?

I don't understand the purpose of the pepper gel. Why does the doctor want you to use it, for the swelling?

Blarg 09-14-2007 10:01 PM

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I think it is used to increase circulation.

daveT 09-15-2007 01:44 PM

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LOL.

That chart is good. I developed my own prognosis of the situation. Entertainme, I hope you laughed at my post. For those who are doctors:

I have very high arches, which results in over-pronation, this, added with running, caused shin-splints, which in turn caused knee problems. I also have a history of muscle spasms and strain. Soooooo......

Over-pronation: This is a result of high arches. A normal walk is that the human is to set their heel on the ground. The extra padding on the bottom of the foot is supposed to allow the person to roll out of the initial shock and continue on to his or her ball, which is that flesh right before the toes.

When you have very high arches, you are not properly equipped with the extra flesh in the instep, which means that there is no shock absorbing. The extra shock jars to the knees and the shin. This is more of a woman's problem. Men usually have flat feet, which creates the same sort of problem. For the women: look at your shoes, and notice that their is extra padding in the heal and instep. Your heals will usually be elevated, this is to assist in the rolling of your foot. Also, many woman's shoes are rounded at the bottom, to assist in walking. (I wish I knew this ten years ago)

Shin-splint: A party joke, really. This is caused by excessive use of the shin muscles. This is also called "runners shin." It is a party joke because it causes the muscles in the shin to turn to some kind of jelly substance. Very nasty to feel. I have one very small spot on my upper shin that was like that, now it is hard.

Spasm: Ripped muscles

Strain: Swollen muscles.

I told my doctor and podiatrist all this stuff, but they don't listen. I don't know what to think of that. I shouldn't expect them to be impressed by my big words. I think that they enjoy the challenge of discovering what the issue is on their own. When the podiatrist is twisting and massaging my leg and foot, I get the memory of sitting under the Christmas tree shaking presents.

Whenever you injure yourself, you will have swelling. This is a natural reaction to injury, as you body is attempting to add blood, adrenaline, or whatever to the harmed area. Excessive swelling results in blood clotting, and other problems.

Finally, heat also helps to reduce the general pain of arthritis. If you have arthritis and live in a snowy area of the world, you should move. But if you don't want to. You could take a pot of hot water, fresh off the stove, and dip the arthritic part of your body in it.

entertainme 09-18-2007 09:13 AM

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What, do want me to die or something?

No, ma'am, nothing of the sort.

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I promise I wasn't wishing death on you.

One of the symptoms of diabetes is diabetic neuropathy:

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In this syndrome, decreased sensation and loss of reflexes occurs first in the toes bilaterally, then extends upward. It is usually described as glove-stocking distribution of numbness, sensory loss, dysesthesia and nighttime pain. The pain can feel like burning, pricking sensation, achy or dull. Pins and needles sensation is common. Loss of proprioception, that is, the sense of where a limb is in space, is affected early.

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It's not uncommon for people to first discover that they have diabetes because they have pain and loss of feeling in their feet.

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I told my doctor and podiatrist all this stuff, but they don't listen. I don't know what to think of that. I shouldn't expect them to be impressed by my big words. I think that they enjoy the challenge of discovering what the issue is on their own.

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You really have to educate yourself. I'm convinced my husband lost some eyesight because of incompetent doctors. We had been to the emergency room and a specialist who did squat for him. Finally from his symptoms and some googling I deduced he had Iritis. I called the emergency room and said, "OK. I figured out what's wrong. If I bring him in this time are you actually going to treat him.

So, I'm pretty much the medical profession's worst nightmare. I print out studies and bring them to my doctor's appointments. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

diebitter 09-24-2007 08:20 AM

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Wow I caught the trailer for 'Elizabeth: The Golden Age' this weekend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vITxj7Tq4f4


This film looks fantastic, and I look forward to watching Elizabeth and the English Navy kicking ass and starting the Empire that would rule the seas for centuries [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]



Haven't seen the first movie Elizabeth yet, so will be hunting it down. Anyone seen it?

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The Spanish Armada: An interesting battle over about 15 days I think, and I'll recall some of it off the top of my head. The Spanish had about 150 warships I think, each loaded with infantry, so numbering 10,000 men. Philip was intending to conquer England and turn it back to catholicism and make it a Spanish province, and backing up the Armada were 30,000 men ready to be transorted from the region of Flanders (Belgium) where some Spanish duke had reign over a region. This was a serious invasion force, obviously.

I think the Englsh navy had about 200 ships. These were lightly manned vessels, but well armed. They could move faster than the Spanish ships, and they knew if the Spanish got close, the Egnlish would be lost to boarders. Hence the plan was to destroy the Armada by keeping a distance and the windward advantage by staying westward of it at all times (IIRR), and the plan worked. The Spanish Armada was driven back, the 30,000 troops could not get to the shores of England, and a deeply significant victory to the English occurred, leading eventually to an English navy controlling all the significant seaways of the world for centuries.

Half the Spanish ships didn't make it back to Spain. Not a single English ship was lost.

Again, the English won against a force by a method that recurs through many British battles, including Agincourt (but with arrows, rather than guns) and Rourke's Drift.

Often outmanned, but never outgunned.




EDIT: Here's the speech made by Queen Elizabeth at the docks of Tilbury to the English forces:


My loving people,

We have been persuaded by some that are careful of our safety, to take heed how we commit our selves to armed multitudes, for fear of treachery; but I assure you I do not desire to live to distrust my faithful and loving people. Let tyrants fear. I have always so behaved myself that, under God, I have placed my chiefest strength and safeguard in the loyal hearts and good-will of my subjects; and therefore I am come amongst you, as you see, at this time, not for my recreation and disport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live and die amongst you all; to lay down for my God, and for my kingdom, and my people, my honour and my blood, even in the dust.

I know I have the body but of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart and stomach of a king, and of a king of England too, and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realm; to which rather than any dishonour shall grow by me, I myself will take up arms, I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field.

I know already, for your forwardness you have deserved rewards and crowns; and We do assure you in the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean time, my lieutenant general [Robert Dudley, 1st Earl of Leicester] shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble or worthy subject; not doubting but by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and your valour in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over those enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.



katyseagull 09-25-2007 12:24 PM

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I'm in a horrible mood. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] I feel like yelling at someone. please direct me to a thread where someone needs to be yelled at.

I would go into the mod forum and yell but those people scare the hell out of me. The last thing I need is a bunch of strangers ganging up on me to jump my [censored] because i yelled at them.


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