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bills217 09-04-2007 10:37 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Kent/Kentucky O51 and VT/LSU U38.5 are looking pretty juicy to me. Only wish I had been there for the openers.

I could see Kentucky getting 51 by themselves and their D is not exactly LSU-like. Last year's game against Central Michigan was 45-36.

bills217 09-04-2007 10:40 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
And after consideration I may make an action junkie bet on Kentucky -13 (I'll be at the game), but it's a small edge if any.

NajdorfDefense 09-04-2007 10:44 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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Temple -2.5 1.1u to win 1 unit.
BG +17, 1u
Okla -10, 1u so far
OregSt -3, 1u so far
PSU -14, 1u
Oregon +7, 1u, another unit at 8.5
Rutgers -13, 1u.
BYU +7.5, 1u.

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Miami u43.5, 1 unit. I hope this goes up so I can load up on it. Only fear is Freeman is so bad even a top 10 Miami D can't keep it close.

Ichabod1985 09-05-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Georgia -4.5 v S. Carolina 2 Units

dankhank 09-05-2007 12:42 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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true, but wasn't bowling green just as impressive winning a game on the road as a 14 point dog?

I do realized Minny scraped the spread passing attack and used a pound-it-out strategy with much success in the 2nd half v Bowling Green.
However, Bowling Green's spread passing attack victimized Minny's defense. Spread attacks dominated MSU last year and I see little reason why that will change.

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this sounds like a good argument for betting the over. it opened 54, i could only get 57 now, but i played it anyway.

iggymcfly 09-05-2007 01:03 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Is everybody on Georgia just because of last Saturday? I was leaning toward South Carolina early in the year with all their defensive experience, but I'm kinda hesitant to go against the whole forum.

sanmarcosrun1 09-05-2007 02:05 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
My index only affected by Georgia and OKst game minimally for this weekend. SC has an expierneced Defense but they are still not that good of a defense, vulnerable to a strong running game.

SC is also streaky on offense. Essentially they have a QB who will be going through week 1 this weekend. That messes with an offense like this one which relys heavily on timing. SC has some strong defenders returning also this week from injuries or academic reasons but just doesn't make much of difference to my index at least.

Neutral field is -8.5 so will gladly take Georgia at home for -5. But you are strong in your analysis and I could be sadly wrong. Don't let us scare you from your skills and trusting yourself. Groups aren't right all the time.

MyTurn2Raise 09-05-2007 02:35 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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Is everybody on Georgia just because of last Saturday? I was leaning toward South Carolina early in the year with all their defensive experience, but I'm kinda hesitant to go against the whole forum.

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-important keys
South Carolina gave up a ton of rushing yards to UL-Laf.
Georgia stopped one of the top5 offenses in college football.
Though the teams are different, Georgia won 18-0 on the road last year.

Those are the three important points

Ichabod1985 09-05-2007 09:58 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Miami/Oklahoma Under 43 1 Unit
Buffalo/Temple Under 47 1 Unit
Nebraska/Wake Forest Over 50 1 Unit
Kent St/Kentucky Over 51.5 1 Unit

bills217 09-05-2007 04:38 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
South Florida/Auburn Under 39 looking kinda juicy to anyone else?

sanmarcosrun1 09-05-2007 05:50 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Anybody have any extra insight on East carolina vs. North carolina this week? I have east carolina as -7.5 at home and lines I am seeing now are -4.5. Not much insight from last weeks game from North carolina except half of their Qbs yards came off 2 big plays essentially. Butch Davis should have their D better this year but not sure how much improvement they really have. Ty in advance for any info.

sanmarcosrun1 09-05-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
To those who are on Oregonst, they will have Stroughter back in uniform Thursday. Coach is being mum onto as what capacity he will be in game but he has been practicing with First team and spent last week on scout team.

NajdorfDefense 09-05-2007 07:21 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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Anybody have any extra insight on East carolina vs. North carolina this week? I have east carolina as -7.5 at home and lines I am seeing now are -4.5. Not much insight from last weeks game from North carolina except half of their Qbs yards came off 2 big plays essentially. Butch Davis should have their D better this year but not sure how much improvement they really have. Ty in advance for any info.

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As an NC fan I think they are much improved with a real QB and Davis in there, they added a lot of talent, but no way to tell with their win over JMU. I like ECU as well here but think the line is close to fair.

MyTurn2Raise 09-05-2007 07:37 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
I love N Carolina in 3-4 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Going to be a conflict for you Najdorf with Miami and UNC both becoming powers.

sanmarcosrun1 09-05-2007 07:46 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Just had interview on CSTV with Butch Davis and he stated the QB does not grasp the offense yet like they would like to at this point and time. I wonder how honest he is being but he seemed very admit about the future as well. JMU game makes it real tough as well I agree. On fence still on this one but may completely avoid it due to my uneasiness.

sanmarcosrun1 09-05-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
I am liking TCU alot right now at +9.5 against Texas. TCU will give texas alot of problems. Texas is struggling running the ball as it is and if they can't get a running game going against TCU Colt will be having a tough time with this very experienced TCU defense. TCU returned 7 starters from last years team which was in top 3 overall.

TCU offense is little inexperienced but they run alot of option formations which this early in the season inexperienced defenses struggle with. Texas may have some better athletes but I don't see this being anything but close. TCu has valid chance at winning this game let alone just covering. Line should be 4.5(including homefield) points and getting 9.5 is a steal.

Added pick:
TCU +9.5 1.05units

Austiger 09-05-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Adding:
Mississippi Missouri u54 -110

iggymcfly 09-05-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Navy at Rutgers -15.5 (Risk 1.62u to win 1.5u)

Don't think this is available at exactly this price any more, but I put the offer up on Matchbook a while ago and just now noticed that someone took it.

bills217 09-05-2007 10:48 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Yay for Rutgers -12.5! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

NajdorfDefense 09-05-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
MTSU up to 41.5 already at SIA.

NajdorfDefense 09-05-2007 11:25 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
UHaw and AzzuSt lines 1-2 pts higher also at SIA.

MyTurn2Raise 09-06-2007 12:32 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
wow...I got Illinois -18 and it's upto -24 now

MyTurn2Raise 09-06-2007 12:45 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Bridge Jumpers are BAD
OMG Appalachian St
Parlay for this week

Wager type : Parlay
Select #1 : College Football
Louisville 9/6/2007 7:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -60000 for Game
Select #2 : College Football
Rutgers 9/7/2007 7:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -1000 for Game
Select #3 : College Football
West Virginia 9/8/2007 11:00:01 AM - (EST)
Money Line -3400 for Game
Select #4 : College Football
Ohio State 9/8/2007 12:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -10000 for Game
Select #5 : College Football
Virginia 9/8/2007 12:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -1200 for Game
Select #6 : College Football
Wyoming 9/8/2007 2:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -4500 for Game
Select #7 : College Football
California 9/8/2007 2:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -600 for Game
Select #8 : College Football
Texas Tech 9/8/2007 7:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -5000 for Game
Select #9 : College Football
Hawaii 9/8/2007 7:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -8500 for Game
Select #10 : College Football
Wisconsin 9/8/2007 10:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -6000 for Game
Select #11 : College Football
Clemson 9/8/2007 1:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -7000 for Game
Select #12 : College Football
Florida 9/8/2007 6:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -6000 for Game
Select #13 : College Football
Oklahoma State 9/8/2007 7:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -3300 for Game
Select #14 : College Football
Maryland 9/8/2007 7:00:01 PM - (EST)
Money Line -4500 for Game
bet 8u to win 5.49u

bills217 09-06-2007 03:23 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Isn't 34.5 quite a bit for FSU to be giving UAB?

Could FSU score 35 against air?

pirateboy 09-06-2007 11:36 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Yes, they could score 35 on UAB, but I don't think they will.

I love the under for that game, by the way. 51.5?!?!

UAB might not score, honestly. I see something like Florida State 31, UAB 3

iggymcfly 09-06-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
UTEP +24 at Texas Tech (Risk 2u to win 2.04u)
UTEP/Texas Tech under 63.5 (Risk 1.1u to win 1u)
Buffalo at Temple -3.5 (Risk 1u to win 1u)

Ichabod1985 09-06-2007 01:46 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Agree with both of you. I think the only way FSU scores 35+ is if the defense/speacial teams sets the offense up w/ multiple short fields and/or scores themselves.

NajdorfDefense 09-06-2007 01:51 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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Agree with both of you. I think the only way FSU scores 35+ is if the defense/speacial teams sets the offense up w/ multiple short fields and/or scores themselves.

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Did you see UAB play? Of course FSU's D will set them up nicely. It was 42-0 in the mid of the 2nd Q.

bills217 09-06-2007 02:10 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
I hit UAB/FSU Under 52 at Greek, will probably stay away from the spread - they are correlated anyway.

MicroBob 09-06-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Definitely like the under for FSU.

Also on Oregon St -3.5 and LOU -40 and UGA -4.

Not feeling it on BG +18 like some of you guys.

Ichabod1985 09-06-2007 03:26 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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Agree with both of you. I think the only way FSU scores 35+ is if the defense/speacial teams sets the offense up w/ multiple short fields and/or scores themselves.

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Did you see UAB play? Of course FSU's D will set them up nicely. It was 42-0 in the mid of the 2nd Q.

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Yeah you're probably right. Since Michigan St put up 55 on UAB FSU obviously will too. Thanks for clearing that up.

sanmarcosrun1 09-06-2007 03:28 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Added another unit on Oregonst -3 today. My only 2 unit play of the week.

NajdorfDefense 09-06-2007 03:39 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Did you see UAB play? A simple question, that's all.

I didn't say FSU would score 55, did you read what I wrote? Making up stupid strawman that nobody said is incredibly lame and annoying.

If you think Vegas is giving away the FREE MONIEZ!11! than that's fine, but obviously there are many people who think 42-10, or more, is a score that can easily happen.

The line is ~35, so FSU has to score at least that much to begin with. Do you think the line is totally off?

MyTurn2Raise 09-06-2007 03:45 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
FYI-
FSU beat UAB 34-7 in 2004 with 26 first downs, 251 rushing yards on 47 carries and 238 passing yards. UAB had -24 yards rushing and was 10 of 22 for 168 yards. the turnover battle was even. FSU looked crappy that year on offense, especially in the first week, as well.


Last year, crappy FSU did beat Rice 55-7 and Duke 51-24.

bills217 09-06-2007 04:03 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
I think I will get a little MTSU against Louisville...it has moved against MyTurn.

44-16 last year if memory serves, and MTSU is not Murray (1-10 in I-AA last year).

41 points is a lot if you're not playing Temple or Buffalo or North Texas.

darko3131 09-06-2007 04:05 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
It seems Oregon st. is a trendy pick on these boards, but I'd watch out for that game Brandon Lang likes Cincy. I like the M's Missouri, Memphis and Miss. St. any reason these teams don't all win by at least 7.

MyTurn2Raise 09-06-2007 04:23 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
hahahahahaha....Brandon Lang....hahahahahhahahahaa

bills217 09-06-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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It seems Oregon st. is a trendy pick on these boards, but I'd watch out for that game Brandon Lang likes Cincy. I like the M's Missouri, Memphis and Miss. St. any reason these teams don't all win by at least 7.

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Sylvester Croom and Michael Henig come to mind.

Not saying I have the testicular fortitude to put real American money on Tulane, but...

Ichabod1985 09-06-2007 05:17 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
Your post implied that since UAB got killed last week then they'd get dominated by FSU this week by a similar score. Otherwise why post that it was 42-0 in the 2nd quarter? How and why those points were scored is much more relevant than just posting a number. I also love how you accuse me of making up things you didn't say then turn around and act like I said this game was "FREE MONIEZ!11!". And I love how since the line is 35 so FSU has to score at least that much. Obviously someone forgot to tell that to Virginia Tech and company last week.

MicroBob 09-06-2007 05:36 PM

Re: Week 2 NCAAF - project the opening lines
 
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I think I will get a little MTSU against Louisville...it has moved against MyTurn.

44-16 last year if memory serves, and MTSU is not Murray (1-10 in I-AA last year).

41 points is a lot if you're not playing Temple or Buffalo or North Texas.

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Really like LOU here.
Last year MTSU played a bit above themselves and was super-juiced at home.
This year it's at LOU.
Really feel that last year it was more a matter of LOU heading to a boring non-conference opponent in the MIDDLE of the season when they had bigger matchups to look forward to and they came out flat in the 1st half.

MTSU lost to Oklahoma and South Carolina by 50+ each last year which was their truer form imo.

I think MTSU gets hurt more by the shorter week.
They are also coming off a lousy loss to Fla Atl so it's questionable whether they are even as good as they were last year.


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