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how long can is a refrigerated pizza from pizza pizza good for? its been about 40 hours. toppings are bacon strips, pepperoni and ground beef if thats relevant.

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eat that [censored] 40 hours is nothing

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I ate 3 pieces and also used the cremy garlic dipping sauce which had already been opened and looked a little questionable.

It was delicious.

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you're a big nit. its refrigerated. if it was unrefrigerated it would be much closer.

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I ate pizza once that was left unfridgerated and under my bed for 8-9 days....(I got sick and missed 3 days of school after that) LOL

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rika that is so nasty.

fwf that hand is siiiiiiiick

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rika that is so siiiiiiiick .

fwf that hand is nasty

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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What cash games usually run?

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man whats so sick about that fwf hand every draw missed hes getting almost 3-1 on the river etc etc you guys dont play enough hu

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h2g,

no idea. when i was in barcelona, they only spread €5/€10 PLO and like €20/€40 LHE. never been to an ept event. others can prob fill in blanks tho

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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What cash games usually run?

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during last years ept barca there werent that much cash games since the casino sucks ass. also, if u are planning to play the tournaments then u need to pre-register...i didnt last year and it got full..

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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i am !!!

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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What cash games usually run?

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during last years ept barca there werent that much cash games since the casino sucks ass. also, if u are planning to play the tournaments then u need to pre-register...i didnt last year and it got full..

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planning on going to london, is the casino/cash games better ?

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Has anyone tried PKR.com? The graphics rule and some of the options are awesome.

Can their site be trusted with real money and what background info if any is there about this site?

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Has anyone tried PKR.com? The graphics rule and some of the options are awesome.

Can their site be trusted with real money and what background info if any is there about this site?

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my cousin uses the site and says their games are incredible and their cashout service is fine.

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With 30 seconds left, called Jay to see what he would do.

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cmon man wtf this is so sketchy.

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With 30 seconds left, called Jay to see what he would do.

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cmon man wtf this is so sketchy.

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nah it really isnt. i doubt that would help, seems like a really dumb idea. dunno how he could express the exact situation in such a small time frame, and get an accurate response

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that and people switch accounts on ftp all the time, and you think consulting someone for 1 hand is sketchy?

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that and people switch accounts on ftp all the time, and you think consulting someone for 1 hand is sketchy?

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that and people switch accounts on ftp all the time, and you think consulting someone for 1 hand is sketchy?

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what

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With 30 seconds left, called Jay to see what he would do.

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cmon man wtf this is so sketchy.

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nah it really isnt. i doubt that would help, seems like a really dumb idea. dunno how he could express the exact situation in such a small time frame, and get an accurate response

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yeah, i was honestly just hoping he'd say call so i wouldn't feel like an idiot if i got shown 99. he said fold and i called anyway.

also, HEK: come on. i take poker ethics very seriously but I see absolutely nothing wrong with asking friends for advice on hands if they're not playing in the game and informing you of dead cards. do you have a problem with two roommates playing together talking over hands?

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that and people switch accounts on ftp all the time, and you think consulting someone for 1 hand is sketchy?

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what

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personally, it doesn't really bother me, however, saying that because people do one thing which is more morally reprehensible than the other thing somehow makes the lesser of the two ok...just seems to be questionable logic at best.

he also made it seem like it was "just this hand." And that is laughable.

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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i am !!!

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same

Ansky,

going to London? Any idea if you or other people are planning on getting a house for ESOP + EPT London? People have talked about it a lot and Shaun Deeb and others seemed set on doing it, but now everyones being lazy and I'm worried it might not happen.

Regardless where is everyone staying in Barcelona, and is anyone else going from Turning Stone straight to Barcelona to have more time to enjoy the city?

-Jeff

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I NEVER switch accounts...EVER. Quite some ago I dumped the LLL account for a new name. But I NEVER go back and forth. I, also, take poker ethics very seriously.

FWF, I'm sure you do also. I don't think asking someone advice during a hand is something so awful that it should put your rep in question. We all know you're solid. I simply think that >1 person/hand isn't cool and I don't see how anybody can disagree.

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that and people switch accounts on ftp all the time, and you think consulting someone for 1 hand is sketchy?

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personally, it doesn't really bother me, however, saying that because people do one thing which is more morally reprehensible than the other thing somehow makes the lesser of the two ok...just seems to be questionable logic at best.


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well obviously you're right and the prevalence of account switching doesn't justify some other unethical action
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he also made it seem like it was "just this hand." And that is laughable.

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That was the only hand of the session I asked advice for. Also, I'm confused: are there people who really think calling/IMing a friend for thoughts on a hand mid-hand is unethical? If so, what about having a roommate sweat you?

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I simply think that >1 person/hand isn't cool and I don't see how anybody can disagree.

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wtf? this has been discussed before, and the bottom line is that online poker does not have a one-player-to-a-hand rule.

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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i am !!!

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same

Ansky,

going to London? Any idea if you or other people are planning on getting a house for ESOP + EPT London? People have talked about it a lot and Shaun Deeb and others seemed set on doing it, but now everyones being lazy and I'm worried it might not happen.

Regardless where is everyone staying in Barcelona, and is anyone else going from Turning Stone straight to Barcelona to have more time to enjoy the city?

-Jeff

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I'm going to Barcelona, but I'm not getting there til the 27th, because i have stuff to take care of back in DC between the end of the TS event and barcelona.

I don't know what the deal is with london, but I'm going to go during WSOP europe time, just not sure if i'll play the tournament there or just bum around.

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Also, I'm confused: are there people who really think calling/IMing a friend for thoughts on a hand mid-hand is unethical? If so, what about having a roommate sweat you?

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and what about real-time coaching? i think you're totally in the clear here, fwf.

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I simply think that >1 person/hand isn't cool and I don't see how anybody can disagree.

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here are my reasons for thinking it's fine:

a) no rule against it
b) so prevalent that everybody knows it happens. this is not justificatory in and of itself (i.e. account switching is prevalent but still messed up) but definitely mitigates the "wrongness"
c) it's not necessarily the case that more heads = better play for many reasons (good player asks worse player for advice and respects guy's thoughts, ends up making worse decision, etc.)
d) not clear what the significant difference is between real-time advice and ahead-of-time ?s on a forum if all the relevant information for answering the question is given in the post(if you say "when a total unknown 3bets the CO vs my HJ raise, what should i do with 8s?" is the same thing as being in that situation and asking somebody in chat) but nobody seems to find very specific posts on these forums to be unethical.
e) seems very similar to real time coaching, so if you have trouble with me calling Jay you should also have trouble with coaching services like 3bet, but I doubt you do.

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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i am !!!

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same

Ansky,

going to London? Any idea if you or other people are planning on getting a house for ESOP + EPT London? People have talked about it a lot and Shaun Deeb and others seemed set on doing it, but now everyones being lazy and I'm worried it might not happen.

Regardless where is everyone staying in Barcelona, and is anyone else going from Turning Stone straight to Barcelona to have more time to enjoy the city?

-Jeff

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nah school starts right after barca, so no wsope or ept london for me.

fwiw tho I am goin a couple days early to ept barca w/ a good friend of mine to enjoy the city more.

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HEK,

When I coach my students, while they have the "final say" on decisions made in a hand, quite often I will heavily reccomend an action they do in a given hand. Do you think this is immoral? There is absolutely no precedent for 1 player to a hand in online poker. (Also, I am pretty sure that other coaches do exactly the same, and this is very standard).

I think people have to stop using live poker as a reference frame for online. The fact is, at this point in pokers relatively young career, online poker is its own reference point. If there is nothing objectively wrong w/ something in online poker, then that is end of the story-- I do not believe that using a live poker comparison is relevant.

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This just in. Late breaking news. HEK HIMSELF once received real time coaching. More details to come on this explosive scandal!

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This just in. Late breaking news. HEK HIMSELF once received real time coaching. More details to come on this explosive scandal!

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You Jews and your inside sources everywhere!

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I NEVER switch accounts...EVER. Quite some ago I dumped the LLL account for a new name. But I NEVER go back and forth. I, also, take poker ethics very seriously.

FWF, I'm sure you do also. I don't think asking someone advice during a hand is something so awful that it should put your rep in question. We all know you're solid. I simply think that >1 person/hand isn't cool and I don't see how anybody can disagree.

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I remember three or four months ago there were a couple days where LongLostLoser was multitabling 25/50. Was that you?

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so who's going to ept barcelona?

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i am !!!

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same

Ansky,

going to London? Any idea if you or other people are planning on getting a house for ESOP + EPT London? People have talked about it a lot and Shaun Deeb and others seemed set on doing it, but now everyones being lazy and I'm worried it might not happen.

Regardless where is everyone staying in Barcelona, and is anyone else going from Turning Stone straight to Barcelona to have more time to enjoy the city?

-Jeff

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I'm going to be in nyc for 3 days after TS then I fly to barcelona on the 23 (or maybe 24 ill have to check).

I'd also be up for getting something in london for september.

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I NEVER switch accounts...EVER. Quite some ago I dumped the LLL account for a new name. But I NEVER go back and forth. I, also, take poker ethics very seriously.

FWF, I'm sure you do also. I don't think asking someone advice during a hand is something so awful that it should put your rep in question. We all know you're solid. I simply think that >1 person/hand isn't cool and I don't see how anybody can disagree.

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I remember three or four months ago there were a couple days where LongLostLoser was multitabling 25/50. Was that you?

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That was an isolated and exteremely rare situation that I wasn't very comfortable being in in the first place. No, I don't have any more details.

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Im looking to get money on UB. Will swap FTP. Need about 3-4K. Will escrow with trusted poster, PM me.

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well it was pretty obv at the time what was going on for ppl watching I think

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guys i'm not saying fwf is some friggin scammer. Or that he can't be trusted. Or anything like that. I simply don't think it's 'ok' or 'fine' to call someone in the middle of a hand because you don't know what to do. I was making the point that it's not the right thing to do. Coaching is something compeletely different obviously. And this issue is hardly drama bomb material.

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it's not ok. suppsoed top players shoud be able to decide for themselves. but there's nothing that can be done about it.

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guys i'm not saying fwf is some friggin scammer. Or that he can't be trusted. Or anything like that. I simply don't think it's 'ok' or 'fine' to call someone in the middle of a hand because you don't know what to do. I was making the point that it's not the right thing to do. Coaching is something compeletely different obviously. And this issue is hardly drama bomb material.

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this is only an issue if the other person is sitting at the table imho.

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HEK,

Why is coaching "something completely different?"

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I would like $5k on Stars, can give FTP. PM me.