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fixing up the local settings for people not located in the US, ie not having to change date format of your pc while poker tracker is running.

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I agree that the time & date formatting in PT are awful and something that need to be overhauled to be easier and more natural.

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Move HHs between DBs easily.
I have one large DB which contains all NLHE up to previous month and each month I have to export from my monthly DB, import into large DB, then clear out monthly which is a royal pain.

Please charge an annual fee for upgrades, maybe $10 or $20 as was suggested some time ago.
The level of knowledgeable support you guys provide is amazing, especially when compared to other non_poker apps.
You even read a query before replying [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Built in HH writer for posting on forums. E.g. a button that says "This Hand in 2+2 format". This will bring up a dialogue box, so that I can include/exclude relevant stats/info (VPIP/PFR/ASB etc, stack sizes, that kinda stuff).

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A "select all" and "deselect all" button for hitting all those check boxes when importing HH from email.

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I would also like to see improvments to the tournament tracking. User defined tournament types, allowing for seperation of MTT's and SNG's. Also alow for seperation of (MTT) Freezouts/satellites/rebuys!!/ect.

I think your tournament tracking right now is great for SNG's, however it is greatly lacking in the MTT area.

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I'd like the ability to have only certain stats not show up until you have X amount of hands on a player. For instance, I could have VPIP and PFR pop up immediately, then after 500 hands on a player I could have cold call % and W$SD pop up.

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A generic import which,if necessary, adds date and an incrementing time based on date of creation of file.

I am thinking specifically of cakepoker and DGN skins but there must be other small and unsupported sites that offer good value from time to time

Good luck with this.

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I'm not familiar with these sites. Do the hand histories not include any date information?

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cakepoker doesn't at any rate hence "adds date and an incrementing time based on date of creation of file"
Thanks

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Then found this [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
See picasso's posts here

http://pokertracker.com/forum/viewto...c&start=15

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Everytime I win a buyin I want Pokertracker to reward me with some animal porn, can you do that for me?

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Support for rest of the world dates plz!!

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fixing up the local settings for people not located in the US, ie not having to change date format of your pc while poker tracker is running.

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I agree that the time & date formatting in PT are awful and something that need to be overhauled to be easier and more natural.

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Postgres handles date/time very well (IMHO better than any other database engine), this should be easy but I suspect Access computability is restricting options here.

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I'd like the ability to have only certain stats not show up until you have X amount of hands on a player. For instance, I could have VPIP and PFR pop up immediately, then after 500 hands on a player I could have cold call % and W$SD pop up.

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Seconded, I would love this functionality. Some stats are very misleading with small sample, but currently one must observe them, notice the sample size and disregard them, since other stats have considerable value at lower sample size thus all must be displayed.

As a possibly easy to implement quick fix, I'd love to see hand # filter for each of the four combined stat displays in PA-HUD, in this way we can group stats to appear based on sample size.

dave.

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A tutorial of what the stats mean, what range do winning players have and even some strategies to adjust against certain ranges.

I woudnt personnaly need it cause I've been using pt for years but for the newer players...

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For PAHUD, the ability to auto-calc and display in the HUD your current number of "BB"'s and "M" left for use in MTT's. Also Pot Odd's offered.

I know all these things are easy enough to work out, but if you have loads of MTT's or SnG's going at once would be nice to just see those figures automatically.

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Another suggestion:
The ability to continue working with PT while hands are being imported instead of everything freezing up.

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Another suggestion:
The ability to continue working with PT while hands are being imported instead of everything freezing up.

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This is a definite. The new version will be threaded so importing will be on one thread and other things will be in another thread so that you can multi task.

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Built in HH writer for posting on forums. E.g. a button that says "This Hand in 2+2 format". This will bring up a dialogue box, so that I can include/exclude relevant stats/info (VPIP/PFR/ASB etc, stack sizes, that kinda stuff).

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yeah this would be sick!

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Please have some Linux users on your alpha/beta test teams. We play poker too! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Request in future for the new HUD, perhaps a more professional approach for communicating a product roadmap and managing expectations.

For example an exert from PokerAce forums May 15 when asked when Everest support was coming:-

"I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO EVEREST SUPPORT. PLEASE STOP ASKING FOR ESTIMATES AS TO WHEN IT WILL BE AVAILABLE. IT WILL BE AT LEAST A MONTH FROM THE DATE OF THIS POST, PERHAPS LONGER."

No update until this, 13 July:

"I haven't had a change to look into this yet, how can you say it isn't coming?"

So perhaps to avoid endless posts on your forums and frustrated replies from the developer, how about posting some kind of product roadmap telling people what new sites will be supported in what order?

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Lots of great functionality requests here. No-one has mentioned the interface.

I want a modern GUI like you see in most development environments with dockable/hideable windows and toolbars that do not stael any more screen estate than is needed

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Lots of great functionality requests here. No-one has mentioned the interface.

I want a modern GUI like you see in most development environments with dockable/hideable windows and toolbars that do not stael any more screen estate than is needed

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I could go along with that somewhat but if something comes down to feature vs. paint, I want feature.

One thing that annoys the crap out of non-windows users is the amateurish way a parent app's dialog will block access to the parent - can you do anything about this? What I mean is I can drag that dialog out of the way but the parent is completely locked up and inaccessible to commands/menus, etc. until I close the dialog. I run xp in vmware and have no desire at all to run vista so I hope if this can be addressed it isn't a vista-only solution.

edit: by "dialog" I don't just mean the "yes/no/maybe" boxes but any window popped up from its parent, such as the table print/csv-export window, stuff like that.

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Q: what's the rough ETA on this project? Of course i understand that if u haven't even started coding it, u won't have a specific date for us, but just ballpark it. Are we talking 3 months, 12 months, 3 years? What?

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One thing that annoys the crap out of non-windows users is the amateurish way a parent app's dialog will block access to the parent - can you do anything about this?

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This is up to the developer, not an OS limitation. It's just as easy to have the popup form + parent both be accessable as it is to lock the popup form in "on top / you can't do anything until you close this" mode until it's closed.

Sometimes it makes sense to block the parent form from being usable when a popup form is invoked though.

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A self-organizer or something to sort the PAHUD stats; it is a gigantic pain to add more customizable stats and get them to fit around a player in a nice order.

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There are some amazing suggestions on here Josh. I'd quote or second some of them but it would just be too long. The one thing that sticks out that would be cool is stats that change with a situation, like on a certain street or in a tourney when a table goes short handed. I trust you guys will make an amazing product. As excited as I am about this, take you're time and do it right because I would rather have it be more functional that to have it sooner.

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ha , first get PA HUD to work properly on FTP and then get back at me about future software..

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don't know if it's been asked, but will this new and improved pokertracker come with a recurring fee? or will it be a 1 time fee like PAHud and PT currently are?

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ha , first get PA HUD to work properly on FTP and then get back at me about future software..

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works fine for me

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Q: what's the rough ETA on this project? Of course i understand that if u haven't even started coding it, u won't have a specific date for us, but just ballpark it. Are we talking 3 months, 12 months, 3 years? What?

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After reading this thread...
And as a software engineer myself...
It's obvious that PT must be redesigned from scratch...
And targeted directly at PO and HM.

Even with several talented engineers...
And understanding that this is ONLY a poker tracker...
That is a minimum 1-2 year project.

After getting back into poker...
And buying the latest version of PT 2 months ago...
I was ** SHOCKED ** that is was virtually the same product I bought 3 years ago.

It's really like something out of the 50s...
And looks great with a lava lamp.

If they blink and just try to tweak it...
PT is dead... if it's not already waaaaay too late.

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Request in future for the new HUD, perhaps a more professional approach for communicating a product roadmap and managing expectations.

For example an exert from PokerAce forums May 15 when asked when Everest support was coming:-

"I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK INTO EVEREST SUPPORT. PLEASE STOP ASKING FOR ESTIMATES AS TO WHEN IT WILL BE AVAILABLE. IT WILL BE AT LEAST A MONTH FROM THE DATE OF THIS POST, PERHAPS LONGER."

No update until this, 13 July:

"I haven't had a change to look into this yet, how can you say it isn't coming?"

So perhaps to avoid endless posts on your forums and frustrated replies from the developer, how about posting some kind of product roadmap telling people what new sites will be supported in what order?

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Rather than spend time researching each site that is asked about, then coming up with a rough estimate of how long it will take to add support, I simply do all the work at once. Unfortunately, this means I cannot make promises as to whether a site can or will be added and when it will be available. Also, bug fixes and trying my best to make sure existing features are working properly get priority over new features.

Read the entire thread in question and you'll see why I gave the response I did.

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Q: what's the rough ETA on this project? Of course i understand that if u haven't even started coding it, u won't have a specific date for us, but just ballpark it. Are we talking 3 months, 12 months, 3 years? What?

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After reading this thread...
And as a software engineer myself...
It's obvious that PT must be redesigned from scratch...
And targeted directly at PO and HM.

Even with several talented engineers...
And understanding that this is ONLY a poker tracker...
That is a minimum 1-2 year project.

After getting back into poker...
And buying the latest version of PT 2 months ago...
I was ** SHOCKED ** that is was virtually the same product I bought 3 years ago.

It's really like something out of the 50s...
And looks great with a lava lamp.

If they blink and just try to tweak it...
PT is dead... if it's not already waaaaay too late.

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You need to keep in mind that a lot of code has already been written. Not everything will be rebuilt from scratch. A lot of lessons learned from the current PT and PA Hud software will save an enormous amount of time.

Also, while actual coding is still in its earlier phases, a lot of the design work has already been done for quite a while. This isn't a project that just popped up. Discussion and design as well as some coding began well over 6 months ago. Design is the hard part. Implementation is easier. Considering I have intimate knowledge in regards to most of the sites PT currently supports, implementation shouldn't take long.

It's not unreasonable to expect beta versions as early as 3 months. I hope for a stable release before the end of the year.

I appreciate every suggestion that we are getting. The further this project goes, the more I'm confident that every PT and PA Hud user and all potential users will be thrilled with the next generation.

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Q: what's the rough ETA on this project? Of course i understand that if u haven't even started coding it, u won't have a specific date for us, but just ballpark it. Are we talking 3 months, 12 months, 3 years? What?

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After reading this thread...
And as a software engineer myself...
It's obvious that PT must be redesigned from scratch...
And targeted directly at PO and HM.

Even with several talented engineers...
And understanding that this is ONLY a poker tracker...
That is a minimum 1-2 year project.

After getting back into poker...
And buying the latest version of PT 2 months ago...
I was ** SHOCKED ** that is was virtually the same product I bought 3 years ago.

It's really like something out of the 50s...
And looks great with a lava lamp.

If they blink and just try to tweak it...
PT is dead... if it's not already waaaaay too late.

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r u serious?
I have exactly the opposite reaction -- i really can't believe how good it is. i don't know if I've ever opened it up and *not* been flabbergasted at the fact that i only paid $50 for this thing. I mean, honestly, knowing what i know now, I would gladly pay $5,000 for it, as would I'm sure any other high-stakes player who relies on it as heavily as I do. Now I admit that i haven't tried HM, and it may very well blow PT out of the water, but suggesting that PT is dead is redonkulous. It's an awesome, awesome piece of software that continues to deliver. Saying that it's the best $50 I have ever spent in my life would not be an understatement when u consider the gains it's helped me realize.

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I want a modern GUI like you see in most development environments with dockable/hideable windows and toolbars that do not stael any more screen estate than is needed

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Yes this would be nice.

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don't know if it's been asked, but will this new and improved pokertracker come with a recurring fee? or will it be a 1 time fee like PAHud and PT currently are?

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would also like to at hold'em manager will also not be a recurring fee

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positional statistics displayed on screen while playing.
Auto odds calculator vs their most likely range base on position would be nice

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don't know if it's been asked, but will this new and improved pokertracker come with a recurring fee? or will it be a 1 time fee like PAHud and PT currently are?

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would also like to at hold'em manager will also not be a recurring fee

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It will not be a recurring fee. There will be a one time upgrade fee for existing PT users and a regular purchase price for new users.

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I didn't read this whole thread, but I'll suggest:

More analysis tools: e.g. sklanksy bucks calculator; win rate estimation etc.


When I review a hand in the replayer, I wanna see my opponents stats.

Hand converter for 2+2 (or at least an addon)

Session review feature, so I can easily take notes on someone's session, and share it easily with other reviewers.

I wanna be able to click on a 'session review' button and have a customizable routine that automatically forces me to review my session step by step

Same thing with a stats review, customizable routine that makes me go thru a certain number of stats after a certain amount of hands. I wanna be able to share the routine with other players.

It would be cool if some of the best players would be able to program their review routine, share it with me so that I review the exact same stuff. And then I could save the review session and send it to someone.

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r u serious?
I have exactly the opposite reaction -- i really can't believe how good it is. i don't know if I've ever opened it up and *not* been flabbergasted at the fact that i only paid $50 for this thing. I mean, honestly, knowing what i know now, I would gladly pay $5,000 for it, as would I'm sure any other high-stakes player who relies on it as heavily as I do. Now I admit that i haven't tried HM, and it may very well blow PT out of the water, but suggesting that PT is dead is redonkulous. It's an awesome, awesome piece of software that continues to deliver. Saying that it's the best $50 I have ever spent in my life would not be an understatement when u consider the gains it's helped me realize.

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That is so quotable. I've been using it for 2+ years and every other week or so STILL get the urge to pm Pat and thank him (for about the millionth time). It usually comes up during analysis and even with the big holes there, I can't get over how much I can do with the thing.

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Q: what's the rough ETA on this project? Of course i understand that if u haven't even started coding it, u won't have a specific date for us, but just ballpark it. Are we talking 3 months, 12 months, 3 years? What?

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After reading this thread...
And as a software engineer myself...
It's obvious that PT must be redesigned from scratch...
And targeted directly at PO and HM.

Even with several talented engineers...
And understanding that this is ONLY a poker tracker...
That is a minimum 1-2 year project.

After getting back into poker...
And buying the latest version of PT 2 months ago...
I was ** SHOCKED ** that is was virtually the same product I bought 3 years ago.

It's really like something out of the 50s...
And looks great with a lava lamp.

If they blink and just try to tweak it...
PT is dead... if it's not already waaaaay too late.

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r u serious?
I have exactly the opposite reaction -- i really can't believe how good it is. i don't know if I've ever opened it up and *not* been flabbergasted at the fact that i only paid $50 for this thing. I mean, honestly, knowing what i know now, I would gladly pay $5,000 for it, as would I'm sure any other high-stakes player who relies on it as heavily as I do. Now I admit that i haven't tried HM, and it may very well blow PT out of the water, but suggesting that PT is dead is redonkulous. It's an awesome, awesome piece of software that continues to deliver. Saying that it's the best $50 I have ever spent in my life would not be an understatement when u consider the gains it's helped me realize.

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You should REALLY try HoldEm Manager. The bar has been set, lets see what PT and PAHUD will deliver.

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Most of what I use pt for is analysis and it would be nice if I could save its state at any particular time (db in use, prefs/date settings, filters and games tab). Being able to save a half dozen or so of these snapshots that I can load again would be extremely handy. And I don't mean just an option to save when I'm closing pt but something I can invoke at any point in time.

I'd also like it if the window something-or-other on menubar reflected much more specific titles. Right now I can have a number of dbs/limits stat windows opened but the way they're titled on that menubar entry is very ambiguous and either difficult or impossible to distinguish between them without actually switching to it to see what it is.

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I would like to see a way to filter all-in pre-flops data..