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zio_slim 06-21-2007 05:44 AM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
TWP
I think you play very good, and you won't have any problem in rebuilding at 2/4 and 3/6.
Maybe at higher levels I guess (please just take it as my thought, I mean no offence) Stars is very tough and lots of good regs can adjust to your style, so you should mix it up a bit.

But no way you can't beat 2/4 and 3/6 donkeys; just put the necessary hands in; it sucks to rebuild in 3 months what you lost in a week, but I'm doing it right now just like you, so I clearly understand what you said about those idiots.
You' ll be back soon at higher levels for sure, but if you choose to try another job, I don't know what to say cause I've never been a fulltime pro and probably I'll never be; I just can tell you that (as you stated in other threads) there are lots of cool jobs to do out there, I guess you're young enough to try.
GL

TheWorstPlayer 06-21-2007 06:26 AM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
Thanks, man. I was never really pro. I was always a management consultant, and I'm going back to that on Friday. I just took three months off to relax for vacation. Take it easy, dude.

HBomb 06-21-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
If you're unwilling to move down stakes when running bad/poorly or change something about your game, then you deserve to lose it all then.

PS: Those beats, were not all that bad, those are a daily occurrence for many of us at all ranges of stakes, deal with it, it's poker and you should know that.

TheWorstPlayer 06-21-2007 10:53 AM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
ty, sir

Warteen 06-21-2007 10:59 AM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
Uhhh...

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Pre-flop: (4 players) TWP is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $21</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">TWP raises to $63</font>, Button calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($129, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">TWP bets $93</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in $534</font>, TWP calls.

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No TY on coaching.

Flop: 3 A 7 ($129, 2 players)
TWP bets $93, Button raises all-in $534, TWP calls.

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Scuba974 06-21-2007 11:07 AM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
my suggestion...withdraw a few thousand from your account and go on a nice cruise for a week or two or something...

cowpig 06-21-2007 12:35 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
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What do you think of villain in hand 6?

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He shouldn't call reraises with ATo even if he CAN stack KK when he flops an ace.

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lolol

I think the correct answer was "villain leveled the [censored] out of me"

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75s 06-21-2007 12:55 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
I don't get it. TWP, where are the bad beats?

raze 06-21-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
Chill man, the KK hand and half the hands below it were not played well by you. You're right about the stacking yourself part, though

zio_slim 06-21-2007 01:10 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
Guys I guess you shouldn't berate someone watching barely some HHs...
You don't know the flow, the infos and the table history that led TWP to those light calls.
Basically he's proved he's not a donk in the past, so maybe he could have been tilting, but he clearly has skills and deserves credit.

fsuplayer 06-21-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
i didnt read the whole thread, but u think and play quite well from what i have read (havent played against u much i dont think). u also dont suck at life like so many people, so i hope u run better soon. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

27offsuit 06-21-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
Are you still trying to talk people into calling your AA pushes?

You need to cut that [censored] out.

AbreuTime 06-21-2007 01:20 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
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I want comments. So I can tell people to STFU.

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LOL

catcher193 06-21-2007 01:49 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
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What do you think of villain in hand 6?

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He shouldn't call reraises with ATo even if he CAN stack KK when he flops an ace.

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WRONG

mikech 06-21-2007 02:06 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 

seriously dude most of these are not beats. the first 2 are legit beats, T3 vs T4 was a beat, but none of the others really count.


QQ vs As4s: he had 12 outs on the flop; if you're calling this a bad beat then i can rattle off 2 dozen from the past week. and i get dealt 25 hands/hour.

AhTh vs Ad4d: the obvious draw hit, you can find a fold.

TT vs A2: he flopped a wheel, you got your money in drawing nearly dead.

KK vs ATo: ugly. your flop call was too...what's the word i'm looking for...aggressive.

77 vs 99: he was never behind.

JT vs KJ: he was never behind.

42s vs Q9o: again, he was never behind. i notice a trend here...

99 vs 9h5h: semi-beat. his preflop call was terrible but on the flop he's not much of a dog.

77 vs AQo: you got beat by another flush draw. oh no you run so bad.


recap: villains hit a few flushes on you, the rest you got money in bad. where are the 5-, 4- and 3-outers? if you choose to believe your downswing is due to running bad rather than playing bad, then you SHOULD quit poker forever.

TheWorstPlayer 06-21-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
Mike,

I'm under no illusions about how I've been playing. But if you think maniacs constantly flopping straights, NFD, and TP+FD in raised and reraised pots against your overpairs when they are consistently dominated and then never missing their draws is not running bad, maybe YOU need to rethink things.

- TWP

raze 06-21-2007 04:37 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
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maybe YOU need to rethink [b]your Loc:

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Stealthy 06-21-2007 05:22 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
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Mike,

I'm under no illusions about how I've been playing. But if you think maniacs constantly flopping straights, NFD, and TP+FD in raised and reraised pots against your overpairs when they are consistently dominated and then never missing their draws is not running bad, maybe YOU need to rethink things.

- TWP

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QFT

tiger_hall 06-27-2007 11:23 AM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
i want to kill myself after reading this

wpr101 06-27-2007 12:17 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
TWP, sorry to hear about this. I respect your play even though we have disagreed on a few hands before. Like other have said I've been in your shoes before. I'm currently just getting out of a 100K break even stretch. It makes it so much harder when there are threads in MSNL where everyone says they always run at 5 ptbb/100. My advice is to stick in there and maybe even move down to 1/2 NL for a short time; atleast to get your confidence back.

LonesomeFugitive 06-27-2007 12:46 PM

Re: Quite possibly quitting poker forever
 
TWP how much do you charge for coaching?


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