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Auburn did not look very good tonight... very ABC, very predictable football.

2 things helped them win.

1. Other team penalties.
2. Other team QB doesn't know how to slide, didn't come out of the game and gimped his way to losing the game.

I'm an Auburn graduate and Auburn fan... I was very disappointed with the first 55 minutes of the game.

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Saw Tebow make some decent throws on highlights. Not bad -- though they were highlights.

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He played awesome. Did a lot beyond the highlights, very efficient. Some nice runs as well. Surprise was RB Keshtahn Moore, he looks much improved. Offense looks dangerous but it's going to have to carry us.

Defense looked fairly porous in some areas but that's to be expected.

Other things:
Auburn looks really bad offensively(we knew this)
UGA's Jones or whatever is a huge thug, what a stupid ass move punching the guy.
UT is really poorly coached(we knew this)

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Sat., Sept. 8
*Alabama at Vanderbilt (11:30 a.m. CT / LFS)
Mississippi State at Tulane (6 p.m. CT / CSS)
South Florida at Auburn (8 p.m. CT / ESPN2)
Troy at Florida (6 p.m. CT)
*South Carolina at Georgia (5:45 p.m. ET / ESPN)
Kent State at Kentucky (6 p.m. ET)
Virginia Tech at LSU (8:15 p.m. CT / ESPN)
Missouri at Ole Miss (5 p.m. CT)
Southern Miss at Tennessee (7 p.m. ET)
OPEN: Arkansas

Certainly some awesome games next week.
USF & Southern Miss can play so it will be interesting to
see how Auburn and UT play.

Good chance for Ole Miss to get a huge win vs Mizzou

2 awesome SEC games with Bama @ Vandy, USC @ UGA

And of course VT/LSU. VT may not score in this game offensively.

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I will say I'm was much impressed by Tim Tebow tonight. Usually I think U of F is VASTLY overrated, but today they looked great. It honestly pains me to say that.

I agree with you on Auburn's offense, but I wonder how much of it was play-calling. It was fricking HORRIBLE. Reminiscent of the up-the-middle, up-the-middle, up-the-middle punt days of the mid 90's. WHY do the coaches insist on running it up the middle when we have no offensive line?

I'm hoping this was a huge level, but I doubt it. There were no end-arounds, nothing to take advantage of speed, no misdirection. Even late in the 4th it was still up-the-middle.

I'm baffled.

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AU gets outplayed by KSU, pretty bad.

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AU gets outplayed by KSU, pretty bad.

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I can't argue with that. We're extremely lucky we won.

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That was a great start to the season for Georgia. There's definately some talent on that team despite being ranked too high preseason. That team is so young but Stafford does have half a season as a true freshman starter experience and may have the best QB skills for UGA since Eric Zeier.

The SC game should be closer. Spurrier always has Ga's number but he's not as tough without a unlimited recruiting base. 24-20 Bulldogs.

Let the Big Dawg eat!

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Auburn did not look very good tonight... very ABC, very predictable football.

2 things helped them win.

1. Other team penalties.
2. Other team QB doesn't know how to slide, didn't come out of the game and gimped his way to losing the game.
3. Officiating

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A win is a win, though, right?

Only saw the first half of the UT-Cal game. Even though they lost, I thought UT looked better than expected.

I'd really like to see Ole Miss pull off an epic upset of someone just to get Coach O some national airtime.

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Auburn did not look very good tonight... very ABC, very predictable football.

2 things helped them win.

1. Other team penalties.
2. Other team QB doesn't know how to slide, didn't come out of the game and gimped his way to losing the game.
3. Officiating

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A win is a win, though, right?

Only saw the first half of the UT-Cal game. Even though they lost, I thought UT looked better than expected.

I'd really like to see Ole Miss pull off an epic upset of someone just to get Coach O some national airtime.

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heh, no. we def played bad though and worse, 3 def. starters hurt and an academically ineligible RB, although ive heard he'll be back in the next couple weeks. officiating in that game was fine though.

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TFG, AS, other UFers,

how did UF look? any analysis on our D?

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hats off to Georgia who looked damn impressive this weekend

Only Texas held Oklahoma St to less points last year (10) and the Pokes brought back nearly everyone on offense.

Tennessee didn't look that bad...Cal looked really good

LSU's defense looked awesome, but their o-line needs some work if they want to win the title

Auburn looks exactly like last year

not much else can be told based on the lack of major match-ups

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Auburn only -7, that surprises me. Alabama will not lose to Vandy. Its not happening fellas. Just remember that Mike "deer in headlights" Shula is not longer our football coach.

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My preseason index has Auburn -2 v USF. USF is actually rated higher, the home field flips it.

Have Bama -6/-6.5 @ Vandy....should be a struggle, but Bama expected to win.

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MT2R, Im a sports gambling fish. So is a 5 point differential between your system and the actual line huge? Is that a >1 unit bet for you?

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that's a huge difference....that is ridiculous...especially since it crosses the 3 and half the 7

it should never happen, but occassionally does early in the year in college football

Happened last week as well as I thought Auburn should've been -8.5 instead of -13.5
Mine was better last week. Hopefully, it will be better this week as well.

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Auburn only -7, that surprises me. Alabama will not lose to Vandy. Its not happening fellas. Just remember that Mike "deer in headlights" Shula is not longer our football coach.

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Overconfident? I think Alabama is going to win, but there is def a chance they could lose.

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Auburn only -7, that surprises me. Alabama will not lose to Vandy. Its not happening fellas. Just remember that Mike "deer in headlights" Shula is not longer our football coach.

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Overconfident? I think Alabama is going to win, but there is def a chance they could lose.

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No Im not overconfident, it probably wont be a blowout, but we will win. Theres always a chance to lose. A lot of people (blogs, boards, etc) have hyped this as a Vandy upset. Is Vandy significantly better this year, because I think Bama is. People (not saying you) who didnt watch Bama games dont really understand how bad of a coach Shula was and how much of an improvement Saban and staff are. We finished 6-7 last year and still beat Vandy.

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Vandy is better than last year, but I still don't see them finishing above 5th in the SEC East

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TFG, AS, other UFers,

how did UF look? any analysis on our D?

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Tebow was amazing. Bubba looks faster than ever and fully recovered from the leg injury. Riley Cooper is a huge
deep ball threat. Biggest thing was Keshtawn Moore, he looked like a new man. If he can run like that, then
no team can stop us. David Nelson, Louis Murphy played well, obviously so did Percy & CI. We're absolutely loaded.
Potentially deeper than last year.

D looks young as they should be but we have so much talent back there. Spikes & Doe were ferocious, looked ready for
the SEC. Harvey had 2 sacks despite all double teams. Cunningham looked good at the other DE. Estop & McMillan
did not get any push at DT which is worrisome, the young guys played well(Antwine) when they got in there.
As for the secondary, Kyle Jackson for some reason still is
really slow to react and got pulled for Dorian Munroe. Major
Wright looked good and also played safety some. Urban was very happy with his play. We should be fine there.
They didn't have very much action since WKU didn't go down
the field. Haden(true frosh) looked very good at CB but got
burnt really bad one time. WP-L looked just OK. Corners are
a big concern. Got to get better.
Jeremy Finch is insanely fast and had a huge special teams
play, he may be able to play in some nickel packages.

Kicking game all around looks fine. No worries this year.

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I heard that the CB play wasn't as great. KJackson is surprising, I was hoping he'd be okay given that he's a veteran and been on the team for a while.

Also, scared about our DL. I'll be there at the troy game next week to see them.

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We're deep at DT & safety though, Urban has the team set up for success. Major Wright & Hornsby are way better than KJ, we should be fine. KJ still can't tackle or react to a pass for some reason.

I'm stoked we're playing Troy because they have a good QB, will be a great learning experience for our secondary.

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That's right fellas, Vandy is still Vandy. And Bama does not lose to Vandy. Two names that you will be very very familiar with over the next 2-3 years, Terry Grant and Rolando McClain, book it.

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barry,

Marked improvements. Major's play calling seems spot on. Wilson looked meh. Yes, Terry Grant has tons of potential. I'm hoping Star Jackson is the name everyone will be familiar with.

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I agree that Wilson looked meh. I wouldve liked to see us run it more but I have no complaints about the new play calling. I mean we actually run screens, throw to the TE, and take calculated shots down field now and we never did any of that under the Shula regime. I agree about Star Jackson too, but he's a few years away and I think we can be good before then. This Rolando McClain guy is a true freshman starting over preseason all-SEC Prince Hall. The guy's [censored] 6'4", I know it's early but he looks like an NFl LB.

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Also, I like this Mike McCoy guy, he had a couple of good grabs.

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Am I wrong in believing that Mark Richt has underachieved and should have been axed some time ago?

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Meh, still a good resume, just can't have a complete season.

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SC winninig a defensive battle with UGA, impressive. Go SOS!
Helps the Gators out a lot but that's going to be a tough game in Columbia.

UK didn't look good.
I saw Bama owning early, what happened only 24-10?
UT didn't play well again.
Auburn not looking very good vs USF.
LSU looks sick.

Gator recap:
Offense was unstoppable considering all Troy did was drop their LBs & safeties deep every single play. I think they blitzed once the whole game so our offensive output in the first half was very impressive. We just sliced & diced across the middle with Ingram, Moore running, Tebow running/passing, Percy running, Louis Murphy had a monster game receiving. All of this despite totally keeping it close to the vest for UT.

Special teams looks like one of the best in the nation, a block, a guy who can make field goals, and Brandon James(back from suspension) with a sick return like 4 times.

I was VERY impressed with the D in the first half. Troy can play a bit of offense & just dinked & dunked it all game but we absolutely hit hard & played well. The second half looks bad on the scoreboard but the 2 TDs & a FG were on second team defense, one being when Chris Rainey fumbled a kickoff return and set it up deep for Troy.

Doe & Spikes are amazing at LB, we're faster than Siler & Everett last year by far. What is worrisome is the lack of pressure we are getting up front. I think we're moving away from our experienced players & going young, Dunlap, Trattou & Torrey Davis played along the DL. Trattou had the play of the game knocking down a pass at the line to himself for an INT.

I think the corners played fine & we just look a step slow t safety reacting but we only gave up big plays with our second team defense.

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The second half looks bad on the scoreboard but the 2 TDs & a FG were on second team defense, one being when Chris Rainey fumbled a kickoff return and set it up deep for Troy.

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Thanks, I was wondering about this. I didn't get to watch the game but followed the first half on Yahoo, then saw the final score and was amazed we allowed that many points. I hoped it was on the second team.

Tebow's stats are pretty efficient so far through two games. Is the coaching staff allowing him to actually throw downfield or are there a lot of short passes?

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I mentioned above that Troy just dropped their D today because of how we torched with Riley Cooper, etc. last week. We didn't try to throw it deep once but we totally crushed them across the middle in the first half.

Don't get me wrong, we have a long way to go on defense but the talent level is amazing. We just took a lot of bad angles & bad tackling today. Some really stupid penalties as well. The offense/special teams put the D in a lot of bad spots in the second half, though. I think it's much better we didn't win 70-7, we'll be focused this week for sure.

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Oh, if you didn't see the first game, yes we went downtown a ton in the first game. Riley Cooper didn't even play much today, which seems extremely weird, but I think our gameplan was to slash them & hold it close to the vest.

Now that I remember, Percy Harvin didn't even start the game. Kind of odd, but definitely by design.

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Percy Harvin, who was injured and not expected to play much, came up with big runs, the biggest being Tebow's 16-yarder for a touchdown.

"Percy really wasn't supposed to play a whole lot," Meyer said.

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That guy doesnt need many touches to light it up. I got to see him play some in high school and as a result was very happy that Florida signed him. One of the best pure athletes I've ever seen. I hate overused sports cliches, but Harvin really is a danger to score from anywhere on the field.

Anyhow,didnt watch the game since it was on Gameplan and we had things to do, so thanks for the summary TFG. Looking forward to next weekend. Glad to see the ol' ball coach beat the Dawgs.

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Cream of the Crop - LSU, Florida

Potentially Upstart/Dangerous Team - South Carolina

Seemingly Mediocre - Georgia, Tennessee

Untested/Unknown - Arkansas, Alabama

Bad - Auburn, Vanderbilt, Kentucky

LOL - Ole Miss, Miss State

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LSU is looking scary good so far, JaMarcus Who?

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LSU is looking scary good so far, JaMarcus Who?

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I've been telling you guys, Matt Flynn is the real deal. This is a guy that made Jamarcus Russell fight for his starting job (and likely made him a better overall player in the process). He made a few scary (and I mean scary) thread-the-needle throws, but he has the accuracy to pull it off on the college level.

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Am I wrong in believing that Mark Richt has underachieved and should have been axed some time ago?

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yes...you are wrong....look at his records

IIRC, during his tenure, UGA has more SEC wins than any other school

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Cream of the Crop - LSU, Florida

Potentially Upstart/Dangerous Team - South Carolina

Seemingly Mediocre - Georgia, Tennessee

Untested/Unknown - Arkansas, Alabama

Bad - Auburn, Vanderbilt, Kentucky

LOL - Ole Miss, Miss State

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what has Florida done? Why are they up above so many?
This team lost their defense. Did you see what Troy did?
It's not like they are Southern Cal on offense either.

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Cream of the Crop - LSU, Florida

Potentially Upstart/Dangerous Team - South Carolina

Seemingly Mediocre - Georgia, Tennessee

Untested/Unknown - Arkansas, Alabama

Bad - Auburn, Vanderbilt, Kentucky

LOL - Ole Miss, Miss State

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what has Florida done? Why are they up above so many?
This team lost their defense. Did you see what Troy did?
It's not like they are Southern Cal on offense either.

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Florida is returning the vast majority of their offense plus Tim Tebow. Defensively they defintely have some holes but a lot of raw talent. Sure the jury is still out until they play Tenn. next weekend. But I find it difficult to believe that you have a legitimate gripe with them being one of the top teams in the SEC.

Quit drinking the hatorade. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

PS As for Troy they did that against the 2nd team and were the beneficiaries of some very good field position. Troy didnt do crap on offense outside of the 3rd quarter.

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Cream of the Crop - LSU, Florida

Potentially Upstart/Dangerous Team - South Carolina

Seemingly Mediocre - Georgia, Tennessee

Untested/Unknown - Arkansas, Alabama

Bad - Auburn, Vanderbilt, Kentucky

LOL - Ole Miss, Miss State

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what has Florida done? Why are they up above so many?
This team lost their defense. Did you see what Troy did?
It's not like they are Southern Cal on offense either.

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Did you watch the game? 1 TD set up by a fumbled kickoff & then another TD/FG against 2nd team defense. Don't even post about the Gators when you know nothing about the game.