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sethypooh21 10-14-2007 01:44 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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he folds pf when his opponents have like KK or AK or QQ, etc

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Yeah I know,
but I want to know what he had when hes folding his hands.
Its IMO a big difference when hes folding some trash hands like 3 2o or some better Hands.

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He has total trash sometimes, but he calls raises regularly with total crap as well. The only times he folds are with total trash and a big pair out - he even OPEN FOLDS a few times if big pairs are behind him...

jgunnip 10-14-2007 01:54 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
I'd love it if somebody could put together a PXF HH of the cheaters tournament. Or just all the hands that are available.

TheWacoKidd 10-14-2007 01:55 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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Nope. The last GRAYCAT hand was

14 896764146 2007-09-12 23:20:27 4090 4090 0 TABLE_USER Dealt to GRAYCAT [2h 6s]

The whole file cuts off because of the excel line limit, so it only has from 9 PM (tourney start) until around 11:20 PM. It's too bad because he only has 4K chips and looks like he's about to bust.

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I'm confused: you say that you only have tourney data up to 11:20pm, but in the P5s thread with ALL of the HHs, it shows ALL of Potripper's hhs, right through 1:50am when he won the tourney with that ridic T high call.

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the master HH Absolute sent Marco cuts off before the final table, but Marco posted the normal FT HH to show potripper winning almost every hand... this thread should have the same HH's as the P5 thread

N 82 50 24 10-14-2007 01:57 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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I'd love it if somebody could put together a PXF HH of the cheaters tournament. Or just all the hands that are available.

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I PM'ed mindwise about me giving him a compatible HH file for the PXF replayer. No response thus far.

Deuce2High 10-14-2007 02:09 PM

X-Post from NVG and Internet Gambling
 
Absolute poker clears POTRIPPER of any wrongdoing in this situation. The investigation has beeen going on for almost a month now.

I have several close friends who have played this guy headsup on the account DOUBLDRAG as well who are in total down over $100k to the Absolute Poker hackers. These hackers are probably going to be clearing close to a MILLION DOLLARS on accounts GRAYCAT, PAYUP, STEAMROLLER, DOUBLEDRAG, POTRIPPER. It should also be mentioned that all of this money was CHIP DUMPED to other accounts to be cashed out and this chip dumping was basically ignored by Absolute Poker investigators.

I've written a letter to the Kahnawakee gaming comission as I suggest everyone else do the same.

If you are currently not playing on Absolute Poker because of this situation inform Absolute Poker as to why you are not playing on their site.

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN IF WE DO NOT MAKE IT HAPPEN. ABSOLUTE IS PUSHING THIS UNDER THE RUG. THIS IS HE MOST SERIOUSLY DEVASTATING SITUATION THAT ONLINE POKER HAS EVER SEEN. THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT A MONTH NOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IT'S BECUASE WE ARE BEING STONEWALLED.

Sorry for the caps but I am finally sick and tired of this sitation not getting the attention it deserves. Also I am banned from posting on P5s so if someone wants to suggest writing to the Kahnawakee gaming comission and Absolute Poker to P5ers, PLEASE do.

xTheKidx 10-14-2007 02:12 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
OK
he didnt have very much when he foldet PRF when the other guys had AA but the Hand where he foldet KT

(Raises 82o then just check folds second pair???)
Stage #896714539 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:35:40.009 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($3024 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($13901 in chips)
Seat 2 - OBV_DONK ($9030 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($47712 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($14313 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($11855 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($10290 in chips)
Seat 7 - CLOVER777 ($7345 in chips)
KOOLKEITH13 - Posts small blind $100
SCARFACE_79 - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to OBV_DONK [2s 10s]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [8c 2h]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Kd 4h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [Kh 5s]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [Jc As]
Dealt to CLOVER777 [6d 7s]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [Jd 4d]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [7h 2c]
OBV_DONK - Folds
POTR0AST - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $800 to $800
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Calls $800
CLOVER777 - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [3s 8h Jh]
POTRIPPER - Checks
JINXY_MONKEY - Bets $1400
POTRIPPER - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - returned ($1400) : not called


(Notice he wont fold 26o utg but he will later fold KQo to no raise in pos when AA dealt behind him)
Stage #896715627 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:36:43.010 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($13681 in chips)
Seat 2 - OBV_DONK ($9010 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($46892 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($14293 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($11835 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($11530 in chips)
Seat 7 - CLOVER777 ($7325 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($2904 in chips)
SCARFACE_79 - Posts small blind $100
OBV_DONK - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to OBV_DONK [10h 7h]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [6s 2h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [6c 4d]
Dealt to POTR0AST [5c 3h]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [7s 3s]
Dealt to CLOVER777 [9s 10s]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [3c Jc]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [8d 4h]
POTRIPPER - Raises $800 to $800
POKERME420 - Folds
POTR0AST - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
CLOVER777 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
OBV_DONK - Folds
POTRIPPER - returned ($600) : not called

Stage #896705741 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:27:40.006 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($15461 in chips)
Seat 2 - OBV_DONK ($10240 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($31923 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($9783 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6790 in chips)
SCARFACE_79 - Posts small blind $100
BIGREDAK86 - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [Jh 2c]
Dealt to OBV_DONK [4h Js]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [Ks Qd]
Dealt to POTR0AST [10s 7d]
Dealt to POKERME420 [Ad 7c]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [2d 10h]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [9s 9d]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [9h 9c]
OBV_DONK - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $600 to $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $600
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $500
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Ac 8c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $400
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $400
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $400
*** TURN *** [Ah Ac 8c] [3c]
SCARFACE_79 - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1800
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $1800
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah Ac 8c 3c] [Kd]
POTRIPPER - Bets $2999
KOOLKEITH13 - Calls $2999
POTRIPPER - Shows [Ks Qd] (Two Pair, aces and kings)


Stage #896701727 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:24:07.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6890 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($5233.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($4891 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($26332 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
JINXY_MONKEY - Posts small blind $100
DZ00NUTS - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [10d 4h]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [Jc Jd]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [As Ac]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Js 6h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [5h 7h]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [2c Qc]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [Qd 9c]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [6d 3h]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [Jh 3d]
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Raises $600 to $600
POTRIPPER - Calls $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Calls $400
*** FLOP *** [2d 2s 5s]
DZ00NUTS - Checks
JOSIAHW - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1000
DZ00NUTS - Folds
JOSIAHW - All-In(Raise) $4291 to $4291
POTRIPPER - Calls $3291
*** TURN *** [2d 2s 5s] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [2d 2s 5s Kd] [3s]
POTRIPPER Collects $10482 from main pot

Stage #896700824 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:23:19.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14915 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($7090 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($5233.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($4891 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($29332 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($11873 in chips)
POKERME420 - Posts small blind $100
JINXY_MONKEY - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [5c As]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [5s Jh]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [4h 3d]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Ah 10d]
Dealt to POKERME420 [6s 7d]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [Qc Kc]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [3c 6c]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [2c 5d]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [5h 2d]
DZ00NUTS - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Folds
POTRIPPER - Raises $800 to $800
POTR0AST - Raises $3000 to $3000
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
POTRIPPER - Calls $2200
*** FLOP *** [9h Ad 8s]
POTRIPPER - Checks
POTR0AST - Bets $2500
POTRIPPER - Folds
POTR0AST - returned ($2500) : not called

(Fold preflop #5)
Stage #896702898 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:25:10.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #6 is the dealer
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($31923 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6790 in chips)
DZ00NUTS - Posts small blind $100
KOOLKEITH13 - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [3d Qh]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [Ks Jc]
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [4d 7c]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [Kc 10s]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Ac 2h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [Qc 9d]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [As 3h]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [Ah Ad]
SCARFACE_79 - Raises $550 to $550
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
POTR0AST - Folds
POTRIPPER - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Calls $450
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [Js 10c 5d]
DZ00NUTS - Checks
SCARFACE_79 - Bets $700
DZ00NUTS - All-In(Raise) $4083.50 to $4083.50
SCARFACE_79 - Calls $3383.50
*** RIVER *** [Js 10c 5d 8c] [2d]
*** TURN *** [Js 10c 5d] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DZ00NUTS - Shows [Ks Jc] (One pair, jacks)
SCARFACE_79 - Shows [Ah Ad] (One pair, aces)
SCARFACE_79 Collects $9467 from main pot

greggg230 10-14-2007 02:36 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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Nope. The last GRAYCAT hand was

14 896764146 2007-09-12 23:20:27 4090 4090 0 TABLE_USER Dealt to GRAYCAT [2h 6s]

The whole file cuts off because of the excel line limit, so it only has from 9 PM (tourney start) until around 11:20 PM. It's too bad because he only has 4K chips and looks like he's about to bust.

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I'm confused: you say that you only have tourney data up to 11:20pm, but in the P5s thread with ALL of the HHs, it shows ALL of Potripper's hhs, right through 1:50am when he won the tourney with that ridic T high call.

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I don't think we have HHs with all of the holecards past around 11:20 PM. The stuff you're seeing is the regular HH that Marco had and it has POTRIPPER b/c they happened to be at the FT together.

This is the last line (#65536) in the Excel file:

9 896763832 2007-09-12 23:20:55 0 0 0 TABLE_INFO Seat 9: TCBLADE Folded on the POCKET CARDS

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Are you sure that that is all of the data that is in the file or just all of the data that shows up in Excel?

Excel can only display 65536 lines of data, but the file might be larger than that..

If you can find a piece of software to convert from XLS to CVS, you can just open up the file in notepad and see everything.

Gildwulf 10-14-2007 02:37 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
I thought excel 2007 cells are 1,000,000+

adanthar 10-14-2007 02:38 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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Stage #896701727 Tourney ID 1883389 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit $200 - 2007-09-12 22:24:07.005 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 6 - JINXY_MONKEY ($6890 in chips)
Seat 7 - DZ00NUTS ($5233.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - KOOLKEITH13 ($10483 in chips)
Seat 9 - SCARFACE_79 ($10127.50 in chips)
Seat 1 - BIGREDAK86 ($4500 in chips)
Seat 2 - JOSIAHW ($4891 in chips)
Seat 3 - POTRIPPER ($26332 in chips)
Seat 4 - POTR0AST ($15173 in chips)
Seat 5 - POKERME420 ($14815 in chips)
JINXY_MONKEY - Posts small blind $100
DZ00NUTS - Posts big blind $200
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BIGREDAK86 [10d 4h]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [Jc Jd]
Dealt to POTRIPPER [As Ac]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Js 6h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [5h 7h]
Dealt to JINXY_MONKEY [2c Qc]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [Qd 9c]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [6d 3h]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [Jh 3d]
KOOLKEITH13 - Folds
SCARFACE_79 - Folds
BIGREDAK86 - Folds
JOSIAHW - Raises $600 to $600
POTRIPPER - Calls $600
POTR0AST - Folds
POKERME420 - Folds
JINXY_MONKEY - Folds
DZ00NUTS - Calls $400
*** FLOP *** [2d 2s 5s]
DZ00NUTS - Checks
JOSIAHW - Checks
POTRIPPER - Bets $1000
DZ00NUTS - Folds
JOSIAHW - All-In(Raise) $4291 to $4291
POTRIPPER - Calls $3291
*** TURN *** [2d 2s 5s] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [2d 2s 5s Kd] [3s]
POTRIPPER Collects $10482 from main pot

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Remember when I analyzed this hand and said 'slowplays AA when JJ has at most 1 out?' Oops, my bad!

greggg230 10-14-2007 02:38 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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I thought excel 2007 cells are 1,000,000+

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That might be true, but is he using Excel 2007?

N 82 50 24 10-14-2007 02:41 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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Nope. The last GRAYCAT hand was

14 896764146 2007-09-12 23:20:27 4090 4090 0 TABLE_USER Dealt to GRAYCAT [2h 6s]

The whole file cuts off because of the excel line limit, so it only has from 9 PM (tourney start) until around 11:20 PM. It's too bad because he only has 4K chips and looks like he's about to bust.

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I'm confused: you say that you only have tourney data up to 11:20pm, but in the P5s thread with ALL of the HHs, it shows ALL of Potripper's hhs, right through 1:50am when he won the tourney with that ridic T high call.

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I don't think we have HHs with all of the holecards past around 11:20 PM. The stuff you're seeing is the regular HH that Marco had and it has POTRIPPER b/c they happened to be at the FT together.

This is the last line (#65536) in the Excel file:

9 896763832 2007-09-12 23:20:55 0 0 0 TABLE_INFO Seat 9: TCBLADE Folded on the POCKET CARDS

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Are you sure that that is all of the data that is in the file or just all of the data that shows up in Excel?

Excel can only display 65536 lines of data, but the file might be larger than that..

If you can find a piece of software to convert from XLS to CVS, you can just open up the file in notepad and see everything.

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I don't think the XLS stores anything in the file past the limited line number. I am not using Excel 2007, but I think it matters more what it is sent as... I can get a copy of 07 if needed and then save it as a CSV. I'm just putting it into a local mysql anyway.

Lori 10-14-2007 02:44 PM

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I've written a letter to the Kahnawakee gaming comission as I suggest everyone else do the same.

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They denied pro poker had bots, there's no way they do anything to risk their income from absolute. No harm in writing but anyone who remembers the pro poker thing will realise there's almost certainly nothing going to come of it.
So by all means have a go, but don't get your hopes up.

<font color="white"> Lori </font>

Gildwulf 10-14-2007 02:45 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
I just checked online, Excel 2007 has 17 billion cells per worksheet...you might want to try 2007

greggg230 10-14-2007 02:53 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
How large is the file just out of curiosity?

I just tested a 11 x 65536 XLS file, and it's 10 MB.

Noodles. 10-14-2007 03:19 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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How large is the file just out of curiosity?

I just tested a 11 x 65536 XLS file, and it's 10 MB.

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lol. That is a stupid test. DUCY?

Hint: Putting a movie in every cell or just a dot makes kind of a difference.

MrTimCaum 10-14-2007 03:29 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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How large is the file just out of curiosity?

I just tested a 11 x 65536 XLS file, and it's 10 MB.

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9518K

greggg230 10-14-2007 03:33 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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How large is the file just out of curiosity?

I just tested a 11 x 65536 XLS file, and it's 10 MB.

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lol. That is a stupid test. DUCY?

Hint: Putting a movie in every cell or just a dot makes kind of a difference.

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Huh? I just put a few characters of text in each cell, just like the file he's working with.

I was working under the assumption that AP didn't send him a XLS file with movies in every cell.

smellmuth 10-14-2007 03:53 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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How large is the file just out of curiosity?

I just tested a 11 x 65536 XLS file, and it's 10 MB.

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lol. That is a stupid test. DUCY?

Hint: Putting a movie in every cell or just a dot makes kind of a difference.

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Huh? I just put a few characters of text in each cell, just like the file he's working with.

I was working under the assumption that AP didn't send him a XLS file with movies in every cell.

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thats just an example, in reality there will be various sizes of data in each cell (for example a dot is a smaller peice of data than a hand history file - although not to the extent of the difference between a movie and said dot).

greggg230 10-14-2007 03:58 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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How large is the file just out of curiosity?

I just tested a 11 x 65536 XLS file, and it's 10 MB.

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lol. That is a stupid test. DUCY?

Hint: Putting a movie in every cell or just a dot makes kind of a difference.

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Huh? I just put a few characters of text in each cell, just like the file he's working with.

I was working under the assumption that AP didn't send him a XLS file with movies in every cell.

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thats just an example, in reality there will be various sizes of data in each cell (for example a dot is a smaller peice of data than a hand history file - although not to the extent of the difference between a movie and said dot).

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It's called an approximation, dude - and I was approximately correct.

Do you see that if his file were 5 times larger than the one I tested, that it would probably mean there were a lot more than 65536 rows in his?

N 82 50 24 10-14-2007 04:02 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
Guys, it doesn't matter. The file is just under 10 mb and it doesn't contain more rows AFAICT.

Also, snagglepuss is an investigative superstar.

First, he found some shady costa rican IP activity in the file.

Second, he thinks he's found the name of the person who created the excel file.

Third, I think the two of us have concluded the that the IP logs are related to the opening and closing of a table and it is not necessarily related to those who are playing at the table.

fluorescenthippo 10-14-2007 04:08 PM

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I'd love it if somebody could put together a PXF HH of the cheaters tournament. Or just all the hands that are available.

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I PM'ed mindwise about me giving him a compatible HH file for the PXF replayer. No response thus far.

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omg somebody get this done plz.

TheWacoKidd 10-14-2007 04:23 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
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I'd love it if somebody could put together a PXF HH of the cheaters tournament. Or just all the hands that are available.

[/ QUOTE ]
I PM'ed mindwise about me giving him a compatible HH file for the PXF replayer. No response thus far.

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omg somebody get this done plz.

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ppl are trying but as far as I know mindwise said it wouldn't work...

N 82 50 24 10-14-2007 04:28 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
It will work, I can convert this to any format he wants. Although, assuming they have the ability show multiple hole cards at the table, I would have to do it "table by table." But I don't think anyone cares about anything except table 13.

smellmuth 10-14-2007 04:37 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[ QUOTE ]
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How large is the file just out of curiosity?

I just tested a 11 x 65536 XLS file, and it's 10 MB.

[/ QUOTE ]
lol. That is a stupid test. DUCY?

Hint: Putting a movie in every cell or just a dot makes kind of a difference.

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh? I just put a few characters of text in each cell, just like the file he's working with.

I was working under the assumption that AP didn't send him a XLS file with movies in every cell.

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thats just an example, in reality there will be various sizes of data in each cell (for example a dot is a smaller peice of data than a hand history file - although not to the extent of the difference between a movie and said dot).

[/ QUOTE ]

It's called an approximation, dude - and I was approximately correct.

Do you see that if his file were 5 times larger than the one I tested, that it would probably mean there were a lot more than 65536 rows in his?

[/ QUOTE ]

occam's razor, homie: it would probably mean there was 5 times more data in each row.

N 82 50 24 10-14-2007 04:37 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
dude, let it go, it isn't important.

augie_ 10-14-2007 04:47 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[ QUOTE ]
Guys, it doesn't matter. The file is just under 10 mb and it doesn't contain more rows AFAICT.

Also, snagglepuss is an investigative superstar.

First, he found some shady costa rican IP activity in the file.

Second, he thinks he's found the name of the person who created the excel file.

Third, I think the two of us have concluded the that the IP logs are related to the opening and closing of a table and it is not necessarily related to those who are playing at the table.

[/ QUOTE ]

thanks for doing all this, btw

N 82 50 24 10-14-2007 05:22 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
Holy [censored], I think I found him and I'm like 99% sure this is not a coincidence. Skip to the bolded text if you don't care about the details.

I put all of the IP/email address lines in the following type of SQL table:

CREATE TABLE `ipinfo` (
`table` int(3) NOT NULL,
`date` datetime NOT NULL,
`action` varchar(10) NOT NULL,
`email` varchar(80) NOT NULL,
`userid` int(15) NOT NULL,
`ip` varchar(25) NOT NULL,
`port` int(8) NOT NULL
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;

Then I ran the following query:

SELECT *
FROM `ipinfo`
GROUP BY `email`
ORDER BY `ip` ASC

It returned 267 rows.

Then in the IP range starting with 200, there are two guys with identical IPs. snagglepuss alerted me to these two guys earlier. But here's the evidence on one of the guys:

1. This guy "enters" table 13 at 2007-09-12 21:02:14, which is 2 minutes and 14 seconds after the tourney started.
2. Table 13 is the table which POTRIPPER was playing on
3. He never leaves the table, which means he was observing the table until at least 11:20 PM EST (at least, that's how I understand this)
4. His IP address is based in Costa Rica.
5. This is the most damning. He is user id 363 at AP. That means he was created in the system very very early on. Most of these user ids are in the 6 or 7 figures.

I think this tells me that there was some sort of inside job going on.

I will withhold his IP and email for the time being.

augie_ 10-14-2007 05:23 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored], I think I found him and I'm like 99% sure this is not a coincidence. Skip to the bolded text if you don't care about the details.

I put all of the IP/email address lines in the following type of SQL table:

CREATE TABLE `ipinfo` (
`table` int(3) NOT NULL,
`date` datetime NOT NULL,
`action` varchar(10) NOT NULL,
`email` varchar(80) NOT NULL,
`userid` int(15) NOT NULL,
`ip` varchar(25) NOT NULL,
`port` int(8) NOT NULL
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;

Then I ran the following query:

SELECT *
FROM `ipinfo`
GROUP BY `email`
ORDER BY `ip` ASC

It returned 267 rows.

Then in the IP range starting with 200, there are two guys with identical IPs. snagglepuss alerted me to these two guys earlier. But here's the evidence on one of the guys:

1. This guy "enters" table 13 at 2007-09-12 21:02:14, which is 2 minutes and 14 seconds after the tourney started.
2. Table 13 is the table which POTRIPPER was playing on
3. He never leaves the table, which means he was observing the table until at least 11:20 PM EST (at least, that's how I understand this)
4. His IP address is based in Costa Rica.
5. This is the most damning. He is user id 363 at AP. That means he was created in the system very very early on. Most of these user ids are in the 6 or 7 figures.

I think this tells me that there was some sort of inside job going on.

I will withhold his IP and email for the time being.

[/ QUOTE ]

FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

ibluffoldladies 10-14-2007 05:25 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
Thank you. You've taken the time to prove what we all feel.

linuxrocks 10-14-2007 05:27 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored], I think I found him and I'm like 99% sure this is not a coincidence. Skip to the bolded text if you don't care about the details.

I put all of the IP/email address lines in the following type of SQL table:

CREATE TABLE `ipinfo` (
`table` int(3) NOT NULL,
`date` datetime NOT NULL,
`action` varchar(10) NOT NULL,
`email` varchar(80) NOT NULL,
`userid` int(15) NOT NULL,
`ip` varchar(25) NOT NULL,
`port` int(8) NOT NULL
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;

Then I ran the following query:

SELECT *
FROM `ipinfo`
GROUP BY `email`
ORDER BY `ip` ASC

It returned 267 rows.

Then in the IP range starting with 200, there are two guys with identical IPs. snagglepuss alerted me to these two guys earlier. But here's the evidence on one of the guys:

1. This guy "enters" table 13 at 2007-09-12 21:02:14, which is 2 minutes and 14 seconds after the tourney started.
2. Table 13 is the table which POTRIPPER was playing on
3. He never leaves the table, which means he was observing the table until at least 11:20 PM EST (at least, that's how I understand this)
4. His IP address is based in Costa Rica.
5. This is the most damning. He is user id 363 at AP. That means he was created in the system very very early on. Most of these user ids are in the 6 or 7 figures.

I think this tells me that there was some sort of inside job going on.

I will withhold his IP and email for the time being.

[/ QUOTE ]

Great job, Nat! Did any body make progress on converting the raw HHs to PXF compatible form? I can help, if you like.

adanthar 10-14-2007 05:35 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored], I think I found him and I'm like 99% sure this is not a coincidence. Skip to the bolded text if you don't care about the details.

I put all of the IP/email address lines in the following type of SQL table:

CREATE TABLE `ipinfo` (
`table` int(3) NOT NULL,
`date` datetime NOT NULL,
`action` varchar(10) NOT NULL,
`email` varchar(80) NOT NULL,
`userid` int(15) NOT NULL,
`ip` varchar(25) NOT NULL,
`port` int(8) NOT NULL
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;

Then I ran the following query:

SELECT *
FROM `ipinfo`
GROUP BY `email`
ORDER BY `ip` ASC

It returned 267 rows.

Then in the IP range starting with 200, there are two guys with identical IPs. snagglepuss alerted me to these two guys earlier. But here's the evidence on one of the guys:

1. This guy "enters" table 13 at 2007-09-12 21:02:14, which is 2 minutes and 14 seconds after the tourney started.
2. Table 13 is the table which POTRIPPER was playing on
3. He never leaves the table, which means he was observing the table until at least 11:20 PM EST (at least, that's how I understand this)
4. His IP address is based in Costa Rica.
5. This is the most damning. He is user id 363 at AP. That means he was created in the system very very early on. Most of these user ids are in the 6 or 7 figures.

I think this tells me that there was some sort of inside job going on.

I will withhold his IP and email for the time being.

[/ QUOTE ]

omfg

*dances*

smellmuth 10-14-2007 05:38 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[ QUOTE ]
Holy [censored], I think I found him and I'm like 99% sure this is not a coincidence. Skip to the bolded text if you don't care about the details.

I put all of the IP/email address lines in the following type of SQL table:

CREATE TABLE `ipinfo` (
`table` int(3) NOT NULL,
`date` datetime NOT NULL,
`action` varchar(10) NOT NULL,
`email` varchar(80) NOT NULL,
`userid` int(15) NOT NULL,
`ip` varchar(25) NOT NULL,
`port` int(8) NOT NULL
) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1;

Then I ran the following query:

SELECT *
FROM `ipinfo`
GROUP BY `email`
ORDER BY `ip` ASC

It returned 267 rows.

Then in the IP range starting with 200, there are two guys with identical IPs. snagglepuss alerted me to these two guys earlier. But here's the evidence on one of the guys:

1. This guy "enters" table 13 at 2007-09-12 21:02:14, which is 2 minutes and 14 seconds after the tourney started.
2. Table 13 is the table which POTRIPPER was playing on
3. He never leaves the table, which means he was observing the table until at least 11:20 PM EST (at least, that's how I understand this)
4. His IP address is based in Costa Rica.
5. This is the most damning. He is user id 363 at AP. That means he was created in the system very very early on. Most of these user ids are in the 6 or 7 figures.

I think this tells me that there was some sort of inside job going on.

I will withhold his IP and email for the time being.

[/ QUOTE ]

ROFL THEY GAVE YOU OBSERVER IPS AND EMAILS?

it almost seems as if someone within absolute WANTED this information to come out...

rpr 10-14-2007 05:39 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
That sounds legally actionable to me. Time to hire an attorney.

Very impressive find, the smoking gun!

HY77 10-14-2007 05:41 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
Wow!
Whoever contributed to the uncovering of this scandal should receive an award from 2+2. Great work guys

fluorescenthippo 10-14-2007 05:42 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
wow wow wee wah

marimba man 10-14-2007 05:43 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[censored] sick guys. Great work.

Time to get compensated, I've been following this story from the start and I feel so happy for you guys.

Grats.

Lori 10-14-2007 05:45 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
nh

GaryTheGoat 10-14-2007 05:45 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
[ QUOTE ]
nh

[/ QUOTE ]

gg

moving shapes 10-14-2007 05:46 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
sick

greggg230 10-14-2007 05:47 PM

Re: lolz super accountz
 
Wonder how many AP stockholders are reading this right and [censored] their pants? heh


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