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Elevens 12-12-2005 04:03 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
The "Fold to river bet optimal value at 2/4-5/10" post inspired me to bump this.

MrEngenic 12-12-2005 04:09 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
My post includes a link to this post and please read the post again.

Elevens 12-12-2005 04:16 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
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My post includes a link to this post and please read the post again.

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You misunderstood me. I know what your post contained. If this bump had been a reply to your post, it would have been done via the "reply" button within your post.

MrEngenic 12-12-2005 04:17 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
OK [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hobbs. 12-12-2005 10:28 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
why was the title of this post changed? I liked 'I hate you tiger woods' so much better [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

jason_t 12-12-2005 10:38 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
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why was the title of this post changed? I liked 'I hate you tiger woods' so much better [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Because we stickied it and if the title is more indicative of the contents than we'll get more people looking at it first before making dumb stats posts. Then we were told that we can't sticky it.

Elevens 12-12-2005 11:50 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
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why was the title of this post changed? I liked 'I hate you tiger woods' so much better [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Because we stickied it and if the title is more indicative of the contents than we'll get more people looking at it first before making dumb stats posts. Then we were told that we can't sticky it.

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Can you sticky a seperate post with a link to it (like the digest)?

Webster 12-13-2005 12:37 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
The big problem I have with these stats are that they are from average winners. 1.5BB/100 is nice but it's like seeing a .280 baseball player and saying I want to be just like him!

Don't get me wrong - it's interesting and I appreciate all the work but 1.5BB/100 is a tad low to be looking at stats.

jason_t 12-13-2005 01:18 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
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why was the title of this post changed? I liked 'I hate you tiger woods' so much better [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Because we stickied it and if the title is more indicative of the contents than we'll get more people looking at it first before making dumb stats posts. Then we were told that we can't sticky it.

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Can you sticky a seperate post with a link to it (like the digest)?

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No. Apparently the problem is that we're not allowed to have more than two stickies. We're working on writing a new sticky to replace the current posting guidelines etc.

DocMartin 12-13-2005 01:35 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
"compiled" would likely work better in the title

Jake (The Snake) 12-13-2005 01:59 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
This is exactly what I was about to request, awesome.

Something like the micro guidelines would be terrific.

Elevens 12-13-2005 10:38 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
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This is exactly what I was about to request, awesome.

Something like the micro guidelines would be terrific.

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I always wondered why we never had this.

Jeff_B 12-16-2005 01:02 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
I am a $1 / $2 $2 / $4 player on pacific and have been somewhat profitable over 2000 hands. Been using the tracker under a month since I decided to really try and will give you my info if you want it... I can be reached udner aim on the same screen name projectuber or through the boards here. Just be sure to let me know what exaclty you want

stevecook 01-02-2006 02:00 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
where would i find these stats in my pt?


Loss from BB:

Mean: 0.18
Standard Deviation: 0.05
Min: 0.08
Max: 0.28
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.15-0.20


Loss from SB:

Mean: 0.11
Standard Deviation: 0.05
Min: 0.02
Max: 0.21
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.09-0.14

stevecook 01-02-2006 02:02 AM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
where would i find these stats in my pt?

Loss from BB:

Mean: 0.18
Standard Deviation: 0.05
Min: 0.08
Max: 0.28
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.15-0.20


Loss from SB:

Mean: 0.11
Standard Deviation: 0.05
Min: 0.02
Max: 0.21
A one-half standard deviation range about the mean: 0.09-0.14

soon2bepro 01-02-2006 07:03 AM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
These stats are only for full ring (10 handed) play? Not all hands you play are with 10 players on it. I play short handed and some HU mostly, but even someone who always plays full ring, many of their hands will be 8 handed or even 7 handed. And then a winning players' stats will be different. For example in HU you should have like a 45 - 70% VP$IP and 40 - 60% PFR, depending on your opponent

mack848 01-02-2006 10:15 AM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
and your point is?

This is a terrific post and excellent work. The stats are for full 10 handed tables. If you want HU stats, it's not the post for you.

TexasJWP 01-09-2006 04:32 PM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
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a) Anything that seems like a typeo?

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Uh, yeah -- the word "typeo". It's typo. See typo @ dictionary.reference.com

Elevens 01-09-2006 04:38 PM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
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These stats are only for full ring (10 handed) play? Not all hands you play are with 10 players on it. I play short handed and some HU mostly, but even someone who always plays full ring, many of their hands will be 8 handed or even 7 handed. And then a winning players' stats will be different. For example in HU you should have like a 45 - 70% VP$IP and 40 - 60% PFR, depending on your opponent

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That's why this wasn't posted in the Shorthanded forum.

siegfriedandroy 01-09-2006 08:14 PM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
where is the attachment?? i cannot find it...

Mike Haven 01-09-2006 08:56 PM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
It's CMI's second post in this thread. It starts with:

"Introduction:

The intent of this post is NOT to have players change their game in an effort to make their stats look more like those presented ..."

BitterChris 02-19-2006 03:47 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
It would be interesting to see the stats for winning (>= 1 BB/100, which is about .5 BB/hr), "breakeven" (-1 BB/100 < win rate < 1 BB/100), and losing (< -1 BB/100) players, to see if there is a difference in any of the stats.

This would shed some light on the importance of strategy/style vs. reads.

ooinsight 02-20-2006 04:00 AM

Re: Compiled Small Stakes stats
 
I just like that you used S plus to run your data analysis. That takes heart.

menchbrew 05-14-2006 08:51 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
How do these results correlate with BB/100? I am running about at 24% VPIP with 1.2 BB/100 for 20,000 hands (about 5% over these results for each position). I clearly need to be more selective on the hands I am playing, but I am having trouble determining which hands not to play.

Do you have any suggestions?

Mike Jett 05-14-2006 08:58 PM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
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How do these results correlate with BB/100? I am running about at 24% VPIP with 1.2 BB/100 for 20,000 hands (about 5% over these results for each position). I clearly need to be more selective on the hands I am playing, but I am having trouble determining which hands not to play.

Do you have any suggestions?

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Play by a starting hand chart? Fold more?

Actually the best answer to your question, which is basically "how should i play poker", is to use the search function for more than just bringing up old stat posts.

Abbaddabba 06-09-2006 04:48 AM

Re: I hate you tiger woods.... AKA: Stats post
 
Im really surprised with a few of the figures - in particular, attempts to steal blinds and how low it is for everyone.

Mine is WAY off the charts at 45%.

(im at about 2.9BB/100 after 85k hands of full ring)

sparky3474 06-30-2007 11:50 AM

Compiled stats
 
I searched but can't find anything like this for short handed, does anyone know if it exists on the forum

CallMeIshmael 06-30-2007 02:07 PM

Re: Compiled stats
 
I replied to sparky via PM, but he might need a hand from someone on here, so Ill post.

Does anyone know if/where Krishan's post similar to this, but for shorthanded play, is?

Marmor 11-09-2007 07:48 PM

Re: Compiled stats
 
Updates?


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