Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

well my reputation is pretty valuable here. it's earned me money through coaching on 3-bet; i'm pretty sure if i wasn't green i prob would not be a coach there. i am trusted and therefore it's very easy for me to swap large amounts of money on different sites. i value these things a LOT more than 10k.

i also have no desire to scam him. 10k really won't change my life that much and i dont want to have to look over my shoulder because i know a scumbag like degen would go for revenge. it's just not worth it for me.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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1) i don't want to scam him in case he tries to kill me

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this is pretty much the main reason im not considering trying to scam him

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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1) i don't want to scam him in case he tries to kill me

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this is pretty much the main reason im not considering trying to scam him

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Meh, I'd be a pretty expensive contract, I don't think he'd want to part with the money. Maybe I should do this.

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="red"> Jman220 </font> [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Edit: Also, for entertainment value, try banning new degen accounts in Haiku. Note my latest Ban Notes:

There once was a mod.
Who found a degen account.
Quick Banning Result.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

The thing to do here is setup a fake mod account. Back date it the account reg about two years. Make it for a forum Degen is unlikely to be familiar with (Stud or Omaha or something). Nobody knows all the mods, let alone Degen. Insert and back-date a bunch of phony posts (several ways you could do this - copy whole threads, change some of the posts so they're from our phony mod). Automate this with a script and our mod could have thousands of posts in no time.

Sell Degen that account. Nuke it and all the phony threads as soon as the monies arrive.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

i'll take my chances with degen, so long as he ships the 10k first. i got bills nukka

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

$10k, huh?

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

by the way, i think it's pretty retarded that mods thought it'd be a good idea to advertise that he was paying for accts.

that's exactly what he wants, more attention. apoihjpawoiehgpaoiwhegpaowg

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

I can't figure out if that nation/NT! bitch fight was for real or fake. Fake, I hope.

NT!: you are probably fat.

nation: you are definitely fat.

Let's leave me out of this.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

i am a little bit fat but i would bet significant money that i can beat nation in a footrace of more or less any distance.

i don't know how fat nation is or isn't because i don't go around looking for pictures of other dudes on the internet, and frankly i am a little creeped out that he can describe my weight with such certainty given that we have never met.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

"nation: you are definitely fat."

huh?

http://a653.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...661030a7ac.jpg

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

being a raiders fan is clearly worse than being fat imo

self ownage

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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i don't go around looking for pictures of other dudes on the internet

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This reads like the opening statement of People vs. Pete Townshend.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

i'm a steelers fan


i just dressed up as an oakland panty raider for halloween


and i have never seen a pic of you nt i just remember someone said you were fat and you said you were working on it.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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by the way, i think it's pretty retarded that mods thought it'd be a good idea to advertise that he was paying for accts.

that's exactly what he wants, more attention. apoihjpawoiehgpaoiwhegpaowg

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advertise where? In this forum or elsewhere in the site?

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

yeah i am a little soft around the middle these days but still strong like bull etc etc. i play sports and lift weights and all that [censored], bitches better reckanize.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

everywhere tt, people are referring to it in bbv, atf, everywhere. this is just not a good idea and i'm not sure why it ever left the mod forum.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

nation is right in principle, but didn't degen himself mention the $10K thing somewhere in the forums?

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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i am a little bit fat

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dude, your fat. Nation is a little bit fat. Neither of you are Killa fat so your both safe [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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but i would bet significant money that i can beat nation in a footrace of more or less any distance.

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pending the conditions my money would probably be on NT!.

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i don't know how fat nation is or isn't

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not dough boy fat, but he is thick around the middle. I think he won't ever be really thin, he is short and stocky.

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because i don't go around looking for pictures of other dudes on the internet

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lies.

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and frankly i am a little creeped out that he can describe my weight with such certainty given that we havent had sex together yet.

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fyp you ghay bastard.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

tt,

stop projecting with the gayness, i already told mat how bad you want me inside of you

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

Hey guys,

Just wanted to say hi to everyone here in the mod forum on my new account!

-Bill

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

um..

mclgaucho: i'm bbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack
psuprabs03: lol
mclgaucho: just talked to mat on the phone
mclgaucho: once vbulletin launches
mclgaucho: degen is back

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

expert play by mat when we roll back to UBB after three days imo

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

lolll

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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Hey guys,

Just wanted to say hi to everyone here in the mod forum on my new account!

-Bill

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LOL

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

The fact that he keeps communicating with you tells me that he doesn't have immediate access to the mod forum.

I did talk to him. It's funny how nice he is on the phone. It seems that all he really wants is to be able to participate here, so I made him a deal. I told him to remove his 2+2 sites and stay off the forums until vbulletin launches. I agreed to allow him 3 days as degen 2 or whatever. I told him that if he behaved perfectly those days AND the mods agreed that he deserved the chance, he could continue.

This is what I told him. I can be convinced that this is the wrong move, but our attorney bills are inspiring us to be more lenient in matters like this. I don't see this as being vastly different than Dan Bright, his antics, and subsequent forgiveness. Not to say that degen is as valuable as dan. I just don't think at his core he means any harm.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

well since you said the mods have to agree, and there is no way the mods will agree, i guess it's fine.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

I am WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY unqualified to comment on this Degen stuff but that of course won't stop me.

It seems that if it is done off the (2+2) record then it's probably the best play. I guess the mods hate him, I realize he's become a bit of a terrorist, but he's an outlier who seems like he wants his original account back badly enough that he would behave if given the chance. This is a guy who has both PMed me and e-mailed me multiple times about it, and I seriously doubt I'm not alone. Maybe give it a whirl despite the objections of the mods, and you can always and easily pull the plug if it doesn't work out?

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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I am WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY unqualified to comment on this Degen stuff but that of course won't stop me.

It seems that if it is done off the (2+2) record then it's probably the best play. I guess the mods hate him, I realize he's become a bit of a terrorist, but he's an outlier who seems like he wants his original account back badly enough that he would behave if given the chance. This is a guy who has both PMed me and e-mailed me multiple times about it, and I seriously doubt I'm not alone. Maybe give it a whirl despite the objections of the mods, and you can always and easily pull the plug if it doesn't work out?

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STFU, you weren't there, you don't know, etc.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

Hey I'm the nuts, yo!

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

in all seriousness, in one of the degen threads, a number of mods (myself included) said they would want no part of 2p2 moderation if degen was unbanned... i still feel that way, which may be an added bonus depending on how you look at it

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

I'm being dragged away, but this is one of those situations where Mason will be making the final decision.
Still, nobody else has made a Mat Sklansky appreciation website. I'm feeling kinda warm and fuzzy about Mr. William.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

I'm not really sure where I stand on this.

On one hand if he's unbanned, he likely will be ok at least for awhile because he doesnt want to get banned again. However, he's a scumbag and really shouldn't be.

If he stays banned he may create a lot of trouble for 2+2. It might be a bigger hassle to keep him banned.

I'm going to think about this one.

also why was the site down all morning?

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

fk degen

2p2 should not negotiate with terrorists imo

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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well since you said the mods have to agree, and there is no way the mods will agree, i guess it's fine.

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fk degen

2p2 should not negotiate with terrorists imo

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Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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I am WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY unqualified to comment on this Degen stuff but that of course won't stop me.

It seems that if it is done off the (2+2) record then it's probably the best play. I guess the mods hate him, I realize he's become a bit of a terrorist, but he's an outlier who seems like he wants his original account back badly enough that he would behave if given the chance. This is a guy who has both PMed me and e-mailed me multiple times about it, and I seriously doubt I'm not alone. Maybe give it a whirl despite the objections of the mods, and you can always and easily pull the plug if it doesn't work out?

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STFU, you weren't there, you don't know, etc.

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seriously dude

the guy is a master at sounding ok just long enough to get people to trust him again

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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fk degen

2p2 should not negotiate with terrorists imo

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I can't imagine wanting someone around who's stated intent is to bring my company down. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

Unbanning this guy, especially after this, is totally ridic. He's more than demonstrated that he's a piece of [censored].

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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poker mom,

It should also lead to an interesting discussion with your son about blow.

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For the record, The Boy would be sorely tempted by 10K:

- he's 16
- could use a car
- could make a new account, (if he posted here - I've completely discouraged any participation in 2p2)

When I told him I wouldn't want anything to do with someone trying to damage someone else's business it did give him pause.

He was a little in awe that I was completely confident that if I agreed 10K would show up in an online poker account of my choice.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

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seriously dude

the guy is a master at sounding ok just long enough to get people to trust him again

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You are right, I know not from what I type on this matter so I'll STFU. I'm out of my element durrony, etc.

Re: Degen/WallyBalls/blueman
 

yea whatever keep him banned i don't think he can really do much damage other than be annoying, would be really lame for him to get degen back after all this.