Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I bet 60 here--my usual c-bet.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

60 seems a little smaller than most people's c-bets. Do you generally c-bet 1/2 pot, or is that just at this blind level?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 11

(SB)Hero 960
(BB)Villain 2040

Hero posts 10, Villain posts 20. Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero raises to 60. Villain calls.

Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 120)

Villain checks. Hero bets 80. Villain folds.

Hand 12

(SB)Villain 1980
(BB)Hero 1020

Villain posts 10, Hero posts 20. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Check sir. Let's see a flop.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Check!

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

who is voting to check behind on a T65 flop after raising in position preflop???

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 12

(SB)Villain 1980
(BB)Hero 1020

Villain posts 10, Hero posts 20. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero checks.

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 40).

Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I like to bet the pot occasionally in positions like this. Especially with paired flops, we take it down a good amount of the time and it's interesting to see how opponents respond to situations like this.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I agree that a good donk-bet is in line here. It appears that we are both playing pretty passive at this point. It is time to start opening up our game.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 12

(SB)Villain 1980
(BB)Hero 1020

Villain posts 10, Hero posts 20. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero checks.

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 40).

Hero bets 40. Villain folds.

Hand 13

(SB)Hero 1040
(BB)Villain 1960

Hero posts 10, Villain posts 20. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I'm going on tilt.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Ez fold next hand pls

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 13

(SB)Hero 1040
(BB)Villain 1960

Hero posts 10, Villain posts 20. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

Hero folds.

Hand 14

(SB)Villain 1970
(BB)Hero 1030

Villain posts 10, Hero posts 20. Hero has 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 60. Hero folds.

Hand 15

(SB)Hero 1010
(BB)Villain 1990

Hero posts 10, Villain posts 20. Hero has K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Hero raises to 60. Villain folds.

Hand 16

Blinds have increased to 15/30.

(SB)Villain 1970
(BB)Hero 1030

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

check

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 16

Blinds have increased to 15/30.

(SB)Villain 1970
(BB)Hero 1030

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero checks.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 60)

Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I think I prefer check/folding here (as opposed to firing at the pot) since our opponent is going to know we probably didn't connect with this flop.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

BETS

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Raise to 80 - I think he's gonna fold a lot.

1) He's limped twice before and we've let him live both times so he has no reason to suspect we're raising light.

2) He's been raising a fair amount in adddition to limping so my guess that he doesn't have a typical raising hand. Most people don't limp big hands until after they've gotten raised at least once.

3) Lastly and most importantly: he doesn't look like a maniac and has shown the ability to lay down hands, so I don't think he calls with something like A2.

I suppose checking and betting the flop is ok as well (and less risky), but it seems more suspicious to me because we did that last time he limped so he might be more likely to play back with weaker hands.

It's kind of a long explanation, but since I'm the only one voting to raise I thought I'd go through my thought process and let you guys tear it apart.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

damn, too slow - posting at work when people keep bugging me is such a pain.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 16

Blinds have increased to 15/30.

(SB)Villain 1970
(BB)Hero 1030

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero checks.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot 60)

Hero bets 60. Villain folds.

Hand 17

(SB)Hero 1060
(BB)Villain 1940

Hero posts 15, Villain posts 30. Hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Hero raises to 90. Villain folds.

Hand 18

(SB)Villain 1910
(BB)Hero 1090

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 80. Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

easy fold

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 18

(SB)Villain 1910
(BB)Hero 1090

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 80. Hero folds.

Hand 19

(SB)Hero 1060
(BB)Villain 1940

Hero posts 15, Villain posts 30. Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 19

(SB)Hero 1060
(BB)Villain 1940

Hero posts 15, Villain posts 30. Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Hero folds.

Hand 20

(SB)Villain 1955
(BB)Hero 1045

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 90. Hero folds.

Hand 21

(SB)Hero 1015
(BB)Villain 1985

Hero posts 15, Villain posts 30. Hero has A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Hero raises to 90. Villain folds.

Hand 22

(SB)Villain 1955
(BB)Hero 1045

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hero checks??? or villain raises?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

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Hero checks??? or villain raises?

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Oh sorry. Folding should not be an option.

Villain called from the SB. We can check our option or raise.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Change CALLS to CHECKS in your poll and delete FOLDS option, pls

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

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Change CALLS to CHECKS in your poll and delete FOLDS option, pls


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Can't modify the poll, or at least I don't know how. Call and Fold options should both be considered Checking.

Eh, I'll just make a new poll...

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I'll check 2 times out of 3 against this villain with such a history and raise once.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I check!

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I love how every one raises in the first poll and checks the second. Good stuff.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I think they were confused. Raise, lol.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Villain seems to be limping quite a bit, but also folding a fair amount, so I picked raise. Depending on the flop, we may end up commiting a fair amount toward a continuation bet, but it seems likely to be successful, as well. And if we get called, 65s is pretty easy to play post-flop.

So maybe it's a mistake, but the timing seems pretty good to pick this hand to be a little bit unorthodox with.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

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Hand 18

(SB)Villain 1910
(BB)Hero 1090

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Villain raises to 80. Hero folds.

Hand 19

(SB)Hero 1060
(BB)Villain 1940

Hero posts 15, Villain posts 30. Hero has Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Hero?

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WTF?!?! Villain raises to t80?? I've never seen someone raise to t80 at this level other than me...Is this gonna end up being one big burn, like BAHAHAHA CHRISMYSTERO SUCKS! AND HE'S ALWAYS BUSTO!

PS: I've been drinking.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

i raise to 75 unless stacks get short

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

I am lazy and uninspired. If I can't slide it, I can't bet it.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

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I love how every one raises in the first poll and checks the second. Good stuff.

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LOL. I think they thought they were a SB.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

Hand 22

(SB)Villain 1955
(BB)Hero 1045

Villain posts 15, Hero posts 30. Hero has 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

Villain calls. Hero checks.

Flop: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 60)

Hero?

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

c/f. we're drawing to a gutshot, but with a flush draw and pair on board, we could make it and see a flush or full house for all our chips. we also only have 1/2 the chips of the villain, so I don't see why we should stick our neck out on such a risky hand.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

c/f. This is much different hand than the one before when I made a bet on a paired board. His limping range hit this flop pretty well.

Re: Play a hand with me (NLTRN)
 

with the exception of

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we also only have 1/2 the chips of the villain, so I don't see why we should stick our neck out on such a risky hand.

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I agree with the above two posts, and change my vote from bet to check/fold. We can't c/c or c/r.

That aside, I think Villain has shown some tight/passive tendencies in this match, and I think we need to be much more aggressive with this guy. Anybody agree/disagree?