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J.A.K. 11-19-2007 03:32 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
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77/AT+

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lol

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Give me your asessment...

Pudge714 11-19-2007 03:39 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
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77/AT+

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lol

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Then WTF are you asking for?
some arbitrary range that makes a decision right?
OBV Shaun can make this with a wide range. A 2p2r is in the BB... I hope he is aware...so his range tightens somewhat....but I'm not "In the Loop" so wtf/e


and if u are not tghtening the range,,,then seriously....W T F?

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If Shaun only shoved hands which were unexploitable shoves you should be calling wider than that. I'm basing this on nothing, but something like any two face cards, any ace, any pairs, lots of suited kings, K7+, lots of suited queens, Q8+, J7s+, J9o+ sound rightish, but I'm just pulling this out of my ass.

ASPoker8 11-19-2007 03:40 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
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Then WTF are you asking for?

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I'm asking because it was an interesting spot and it would improve my game to be able to make good decisions in these spots

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some arbitrary range that makes a decision right?

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Yes, I'd like to be able to know which hands I can call with in order to gain +EV in this spot or avoid -EV by making a poor call. Sorry?

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OBV Shaun can make this with a wide range. A 2p2r is in the BB... I hope he is aware...so his range tightens somewhat....but I'm not "In the Loop" so wtf/e

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Not sure what you're going on about here. If you are asking about how Shaun views me in order to gain more info about the hand, thats fine. Shaun probably views me as tight and unwilling to make marginal EV calls in this spot.


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and if u are not tghtening the range,,,then seriously....W T F?

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I think your range was wayyyyyy too tight. Not calling Shaun's shove with 66 is a collosal mustake in my opinion.



No need to flip out man...

psyduck 11-19-2007 03:52 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
If you close your eyes and click call it's better than closing your eyes and folding.

chrismystero 11-19-2007 05:20 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
KK+ / AKs imo ftw

bigballz 11-19-2007 08:56 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
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77/AT+

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lol

Requin 11-19-2007 08:57 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
Jesus I was thinking like 44+ A8s

bigballz 11-19-2007 08:58 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
with antes you can call so [censored] light here. I always error on the side of making marignaly bad calls over marginaly bad folds anyways cause its funner and people get scurrrred

djk123 11-19-2007 09:04 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
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DJK,
Those ranges are way too wide taking every neutral EV call isn't very good.

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yea i know but like i said 60% was a conservative range for shaun imo. anyways my point is u can call really light here.

ASPoker8 11-19-2007 09:09 AM

Re: 2nd Chance: Need A Calling Range v Shaun
 
I'm still expecting a Ray equity analysis to make me look like an idiot [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

I had a2o and called and im still sort of unsure about it


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