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AlexM 11-15-2007 05:57 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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Health care? Isn't her health care plan just to force people to buy insurance? Thats ridiculous.

I don't support universal health care, but any attempt to socialize health care that includes the current insurance companies is just silly.

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I tend to agree with this. If you want to do universal health care, I think the whole idea to be disgusting and evil, but at least do it right.

iron81 11-15-2007 06:04 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
Social Security: Maintain status quo
Social spending: Maintain existing programs, but more money
Health Care: Not a whole lot to choose from here since the Dem candidates proposals are pretty similar, so this is just a generic Dem>GOP thing
War on Terror: This is mostly about surrounding yourself with the right advisers. I suspect that a Cabinet formed by Sen. Clinton will contain many of the figures we saw in her Husband's Administration, which fought terrorism the right way IMO
Supreme Court Justices: Another generic Dem>GOP thing

TomCollins 11-15-2007 06:10 PM

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War on Terror: This is mostly about surrounding yourself with the right advisers. I suspect that a Cabinet formed by Sen. Clinton will contain many of the figures we saw in her Husband's Administration, which fought terrorism the right way IMO

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Yeah, that worked out real well:

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honest1 11-15-2007 06:14 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
War on Terror: This is mostly about surrounding yourself with the right advisers. I suspect that a Cabinet formed by Sen. Clinton will contain many of the figures we saw in her Husband's Administration, which fought terrorism the right way IMO

Is the same group that let Osama Bin Laden slip through their hands?

Zygote 11-15-2007 06:17 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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She's Bill's wife. That's her main appeal. During the Clinton administration the economy did well, better fiscal discipline, welfare reform, etc. Although a Republican led Congress contributed as well, Bill arguably gets most of the credit. With her you're getting 8 more years of a Clinton and Bill will be in the Whitehouse to provide guidance.


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Repub led congress contributed a lot. This put government in deadlock, one of the best situations available.

If only the democrats were reasonable opposition leaders we could have a similar situation now.

Bill's tenure appears fiscally responsible, but what happened to that social security fund Americans were supposed to inherit?

Zygote 11-15-2007 06:21 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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War on Terror: This is mostly about surrounding yourself with the right advisers. I suspect that a Cabinet formed by Sen. Clinton will contain many of the figures we saw in her Husband's Administration, which fought terrorism the right way IMO

Is the same group that let Osama Bin Laden slip through their hands?

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about 8-10 times according to Michael Scheure's accounts.

Also the advisors that led the brilliant bush like missions in kosovo and somalia.

Money2Burn 11-15-2007 06:31 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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Social Security: Maintain status quo


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Isn't the status quo at least partly responsible for why the system is going bankrupt?

theseus51 11-15-2007 07:06 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
Rudy = Big government nanny state + War + Tyranny

Hillary = Big government nanny state + War + less Tyranny

JuntMonkey 11-15-2007 07:11 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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Social Security: Maintain status quo
Social spending: Maintain existing programs, but more money
Health Care: Not a whole lot to choose from here since the Dem candidates proposals are pretty similar, so this is just a generic Dem>GOP thing

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The money for these is going to come from where?

TomCollins 11-15-2007 07:16 PM

Re: I have yet to hear a single good argument for Clinton.
 
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Social Security: Maintain status quo
Social spending: Maintain existing programs, but more money
Health Care: Not a whole lot to choose from here since the Dem candidates proposals are pretty similar, so this is just a generic Dem>GOP thing

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The money for these is going to come from where?

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The evil rich people LDO


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