Re: Freddie Deeb lays down KK preflop in FW WPT
 

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this hand is getting mucked. no thought required.

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You are folding the second nuts short handed immediately without even considering it? What are you, a robot? To say that you would not even consider putting it in there with KK in this spot is a bit ridiculous.

Re: Freddie Deeb lays down KK preflop in FW WPT
 

If the range is AA/KK, I can't understand how anyone would argue that the TT is closer to a call than the KK. TT is getting a bit worse than 3:1. Deeb seems to have around 900k, so he's getting about 3:1. Vs AA/KK, he's 22.6%, so he almost has it. Obviously if TT is a call for Myung, KK is a call for Deeb. Given that he has 22.6 vs the range, and only needs ~25%, seems like a pretty obvious call if there's even a tiny chance that limper has worse. Even a single combo of AKo, AKs, or QQ- makes this a clear call. It's at worst a slightly bad call, and potentially a substantially profitable call, as such, the correct action seems obvious given that payouts are fairly flat for the next 5 places.

Too many people are obsessed with making "big" folds, when those folds are, at best, marginally good. Obviously this isn't nearly as bad as Hank Azaria folding KK early in the WSOP ME when he was getting correct odds to call even if his opponent could only have AA.