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annex21 11-12-2007 01:15 AM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
um fold Axs UTG please.

as played against a 15/11 cold-calling MP raising your flop bet i think you are usually drawing to 9 outs on the flop and have no fold equity so pushing is terrible. it's kind of a small raise so i might peel getting almost 1:3 only need about 1:4 to hit turn and you should be able to get in another decent size bet if you hit.

dank stax 11-12-2007 12:01 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
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um fold Axs UTG please.

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um diagf please.

ez raise

Briman51 11-12-2007 08:18 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
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What's wrong with limping UTG with Axs in a 6 max game?

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You shouldn't open limp any hand at all in a 6 max game.

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IMO limping isn't a crime in a 6max game. It gives you higher implied odds and means you don't have to put as much money into the pot with marginal hands so it has its uses. Also, if you limp with a wide range of hands and you find people are raising you then you can limp/reraise your high pairs.

Darkfolder 11-12-2007 08:33 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
Against a decent player you never have the implied odds you think you have.

Snygaard 11-12-2007 09:13 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
limping is one thing, but openlimping UTG is just horrible

Borsig 11-12-2007 10:02 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
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What's wrong with limping UTG with Axs in a 6 max game?

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You shouldn't open limp any hand at all in a 6 max game.

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IMO limping isn't a crime in a 6max game. It gives you higher implied odds and means you don't have to put as much money into the pot with marginal hands so it has its uses. Also, if you limp with a wide range of hands and you find people are raising you then you can limp/reraise your high pairs.

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This is a super solid advice, how much do you charge for coaching?

Briman51 11-12-2007 10:23 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
Boris, I was giving my opinion and showing my justification. I was not starting a bitching fight. Any constructive criticism or alternative opinions are welcome.

luegofuego 11-12-2007 10:25 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
hahaha gr8 thread

Better Than U 11-12-2007 10:26 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
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Boris, I was giving my opinion and showing my justification. I was not starting a bitching fight. Any constructive criticism or alternative opinions are welcome.

[/ QUOTE ]You play $.05/$.10 stakes. Why are you trying to give advice in MSNL? Why don't you take their word for it that it's best to raise. Limping is not best in these games.

Briman51 11-12-2007 10:57 PM

Re: toppair with flushdraw againt nit how to play??
 
"Why don't you take their word for it?"

Because their word hasn't been justified.

You're pretty much correct - I play $.12/$.25NLH (6max). This is because my bankroll is too small to safely play higher, however, I think my game is good enough to play higher, and posting on a forum above my level is a great way for me to keep thinking about poker and to develop my game. For this reason I find it important that people justify their claims with explainations.


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