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DevinLake 11-10-2007 10:38 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
Any 4-bet with these stacks are going to price you into to calling (unless you min raise or something stupid like that).

So, you have to decide before you 4-bet if you want to play for stacks.

LucidDream 11-10-2007 10:38 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
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id just repot it to like 370 or whatever

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thats gross sizing

tozzy 11-10-2007 10:39 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
how on earth is the betsizing important? we 4bet, we get it in. if villain is mildly competent he'll know this. hence, it doesnt matter.

Requin 11-10-2007 10:40 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
Because 4-betting smaller allows you to 4-bet bluff sometimes?

LucidDream 11-10-2007 10:41 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
guess it's not important if you absolutely never 4bet bluff, in which case you should also probably never 4bet AQ since longterm you'll be getting the money in very bad.

i mean if you make it 370 what does he put the rest in w/?

FionnMac 11-10-2007 10:43 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
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guess it's not important if you absolutely never 4bet bluff, in which case you should also probably never 4bet AQ since longterm you'll be getting the money in very bad.

i mean if you make it 370 what does he put the rest in w/?

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370=250=shove

Praetor 11-10-2007 10:45 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
given your reads that he loves to squeeze, I like the 4 bet/call plan. I make it alot smaller though, like $210. Against normal tags read less I muck pf

As played, you have to call given the price

LucidDream 11-10-2007 10:48 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
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guess it's not important if you absolutely never 4bet bluff, in which case you should also probably never 4bet AQ since longterm you'll be getting the money in very bad.

i mean if you make it 370 what does he put the rest in w/?

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370=250=shove

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other than the fact that ur willing to get all the money in once you 4bet these bet sizes aren't one and the same.

DevinLake 11-10-2007 10:48 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
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given your reads that he loves to squeeze, I like the 4 bet/call plan. I make it alot smaller though, like $210. Against normal tags read less I muck pf

As played, you have to call given the price

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Is your bet sizing in hope that it might give him the impression of FE so he might shove wider?

Praetor 11-10-2007 10:50 PM

Re: 600 party I 4bet loose squeeze with AQ, and he [censored] shoves
 
yes, it invites him to get it in with a much wider range than the bet sizing in the OP, and it means when we bluff 4 bet small its cheaper and has more credence


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