Re: QQ in FTP 1k
 

Someone explain why we should be betting this turn with our entire range, that seems pretty stupid if you want to maximize value vs smaller pairs which our opponent has a lot.

Re: QQ in FTP 1k
 

if you have to ask....

Re: QQ in FTP 1k
 

let me clarify: i think its dumb as [censored]. why dont you enlighten me?

edit: well not against some people w history...but i dont see a reason to bet every hand in our range here. Being super vague does not help your cause.

Re: QQ in FTP 1k
 

Betting turn accomplishes what exactly?

-You can't get two more streets of value from a worse hand
-It doesn't prevent you from making a bigger mistake on a future street
-You don't need to protect your hand
-You can only bluff one possible better hand, KK

Only arguments would be that...

1) you're never getting a dime from a worse hand, so even tho your opponent is drawing to 2 outs if he's behind, you might as well bet him out. I'd disagree w/ this.

2) metagame, yea, I don't think this is that relevant, but I can be swayed

But yea, I'm with bakes, I like a turn check.

Re: QQ in FTP 1k
 

Since it's a reraised pot I'd be really inclined to call the river since I can't really give him credit for calling the flop with Ax or calling preflop with random hearts. I would probably fold if it was a normal raised pot vs most villains with this action, though, or at least it would be a lot closer to a fold.

Turn check is also standard without history, and now you call the river, zzz.

Re: QQ in FTP 1k
 

oh yeah i'm reading this again and i think the flop bet is pretty horrible. bet more or check

Re: QQ in FTP 1k
 

I agree withg bakes/mikej that a turn bet is pretty bad.

the only argument that i can see for it is metagame which some could argue is virtually a nonfactor in an online MTT.

you can't get two more streets of value so this seems to me like a fairly standard check to induce a river bet from a smaller pp (and to not get blown off your hand by a flush draw)