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not EVERY person they fire is fired because he knows things that might get them in trouble and force them to close hundreds of hotel rooms for weeks and is making waves about it and refuses to go away silently. Sometimes they get it right.

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Huh what?

TT - Which Chris?

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Earlier today, I spoke with a former floorperson of Caesars Palace (since they opened) who is now working in another big poker room on the Strip. According to this person, management has fired or driven away (this person quit) most of the staff of the poker room and replaced them with less experienced personnel.

I haven't been at Caesars Palace much lately except for this weekend. So, I haven't seen this myself. Does anybody else know anything about the current situation at Caesars Palace?

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is that amber chick still cocktailing from big brother 8?

Re: Massive Turnover in Caesars Palace Staff?
 

Complaining on these forums tells the tale, but mostly to people who are not in any position to do anything about it. Most of the people who are in charge of poker these days have no clue about poker whatsoever, and certainly don't read these boards. The only way players will be heard is by saying what's on their mind in a way it will be heard by management. This means filling out a customer comment form. If you don't fill out one of these forms, you almost certainly are wasting your breath.

Al

Re: union
 

I am not for every industry blindly jumping into unions, but I am not against them either. In fact, I used to work for iatse (stagehand's union) and never had any complaints. I am not commenting on any current situations which may or may not exist regarding any given union.

That being said, I suspect harrahs (and most if not all casinos in vegas) would be terrified of another group of their employees unionizing. The ones that are already unionized have avenues open to them that others are denied and seem to be getting a better deal all around. More specifically, they have far better protection against getting railroaded by corporate bullcrap because they have representation.

As an aside, I've informally asked hundreds of people all over town what they think of their employer, and do they like working for their company. The results might surprise some people.

Harrahs - absolutely no one has ever said they like their employer, and virtually all have added negative commentary without being asked for it. Some do like their specific job and location. Harrahs is pretty much universally hated by most people who do now or have worked for them in the past. In particular the corporate bs is notorious for being deep and plentiful, and their payroll department is especially hated. .

MGM - similar to harrahs, but with less venom from past employees. Few really like it and some complain about corporate bs. Many do like their specific job and location.

Boyd gaming - a 50/50 mix with not many tirades of negativity

Stations - virtually all current or past employees say they like their company. No one has ever gone on a long tirade of neaative comments. Stations take good care of their customers, and apparently their employees too.

I haven't asked enough of venetian or wynn employees to have a real answer. However, most of these jobs are probably so good pay wise that people would put up with a lot.

Al

Re: Massive Turnover in Caesars Palace Staff?
 

I wont mention names, but can someone tell me if the swing shift manager is still there? He is a great guy, and worked his way up from the ground floor. I remember playing with him, then on subsequent trips seeing him climb the ladder. He was very accomodating, spreading many games for us, inclulding TORSE, and chinese. Hope he is still there. Not to mention some of the dealers there, both good looking and skilled (you guys know who I'm talking about). Oh well, sad to hear about the changes, but somewhat expected when dealing with the evil corrporation that is Harrah's.

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not EVERY person they fire is fired because he knows things that might get them in trouble and force them to close hundreds of hotel rooms for weeks and is making waves about it and refuses to go away silently. Sometimes they get it right.

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Huh what?

TT - Which Chris?

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Chris Tessitore, GoofyBaller was talking about him earlier in the thread.

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More specifically, they have far better protection against getting railroaded by corporate bullcrap because they have representation.

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conversely from the eyes of the consumer because of unions we get stuck with horrible dealers and staff when they cannot be removed. Lets face it, you really have to screw up bad at most casinos to lose your job - union or no union.

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not EVERY person they fire is fired because he knows things that might get them in trouble and force them to close hundreds of hotel rooms for weeks and is making waves about it and refuses to go away silently. Sometimes they get it right.

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Huh what?

TT - Which Chris?

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Chris Tessitore, GoofyBaller was talking about him earlier in the thread.

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The GoofyBaller part doesn't make sense... since Chris was, last I knew, still the Shift Manager on swing during the WSOP, and last time I went to Caesars (a week or two ago), he was still there.

Good guy, means well, but I know there was some minor internal strife with him from some dealers as he became a bit more "corporate" in his move up the ladder to SM and seemed to lose some of the enthusiasm and looseness he had displayed in the poker room prior to doing so.

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not EVERY person they fire is fired because he knows things that might get them in trouble and force them to close hundreds of hotel rooms for weeks and is making waves about it and refuses to go away silently. Sometimes they get it right.

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Story playing out the last few weeks in the Review Journal.

A laborer was bitching at his boss and boss' boss and boss' boss' boss telling them "you're violating building codes, you can't do this, this is wrong, you have to have inspections, they just drilled through structural support cables and weakened the building, STOP." His bosses told him to STFU. He kept making waves...

Then he asked his boss if he could take home a sample of various types of fluorescent light bulbs to try out and see which his wife liked. Boss said "sure". Security grabbed him walking out with a box of bulbs, he couldn't produce paperwork proving he had permission, and they axed him.

So he called the RJ. They start nosing around and the county tries to brush 'em off. RJ won't go away and keeps digging. County sends the same "in their pocket, it seems" inspector out to look it over and he returns saying "looks fine to me". RJ calls BS--he's the same inspector who let all this happen in the first place.

Turns out, it's all true. All those major rennovations Harrah's did on the Rio and later-discovered, Harrah's itself, were done without building permits and didn't get proper inspections. And yes, they DID fail to fire caulk newly drilled holes, and yes, they DID drill through and break structural support cables.

So the last weeks large parts of Harrah's and the Rio were closed as they tore out walls and floors and fixed things while inspectors watched. At one point, simply because the fire alarms hadn't been properly inspected, Harrah's was ordered to station a security guard on each impacted floor 24x7 to manually report fires.

Moral of the story... don't fire the guy who knows all the dirt.

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Or stop trying to cut corners?

Harrahs is kinda the evil empire. Some day, maybe all of the stuff with these guys will come out. I have absolutely no faith that the new owners will be better, given the history of private buyouts.