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Slim Pickens 11-05-2007 12:59 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
Here's the $EV plot for suzzer's call with JJ versus SB's pushing range. Like people have been saying, break-even is around 75% and if he's pushing 100%, the call is +1.38%, which is solid.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5599/suzzer1re4.jpg

DDBeast 11-05-2007 01:00 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
settings --->6max?

AMT 11-05-2007 01:03 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
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settings --->6max?

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yeah, i found the problem....for some reason my 6max structure had ridiculous payouts. im dumb. /end dumbness.

eurythmech 11-05-2007 01:06 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
When I did this by hand I got a slight negative EV for 75%, did I do something wrong?

AMT 11-05-2007 01:11 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
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When I did this by hand I got a slight negative EV for 75%, did I do something wrong?

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i think everyone is getting +%0.2 at 75%

Slim Pickens 11-05-2007 01:14 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
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How can he possibly crush the bubble worse than this?

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Looking at the hand from SB's perspective and plotting SB's $EV against suzzer's calling in the BB...

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/6848/suzzer2tx5.jpg
100/200: +0.87% with 32o against 5% call

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8149/suzzer3et0.jpg
100/200/25: +1.25% with 32o against 5% call

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4442/suzzer4mg5.jpg
200/400/50: +2.27% with 32o against 5% call

It's very profitable for SB to keep this table setup around as long as possible. Each successive hand becomes more +$EV the longer it continues. Stealing one BB from suzzer now is kind of meh, but waiting five minutes and doing it is much better. The opportunity will still be there because he still can't call with anything even when there's >2x as much in the pot preflop.

Slim Pickens 11-05-2007 01:17 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
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When I did this by hand I got a slight negative EV for 75%, did I do something wrong?

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Since this is BvB, you should get the same result with SNGWhiz, SNGPT, and a hand calculation to within your numerical precision. I got +0.15% for a call against SB pushing 75%.

Sparta45 11-05-2007 01:46 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
I would fold this. Also, even though he should be, SB probably is not on any 2.

eurythmech 11-05-2007 01:57 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
I don't understand. Could you explain how this table set-up is profitable if he doesn't take advantage of it?

Clayton 11-05-2007 02:00 PM

Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw
 
i like slim pickens points, BUT

how are we so sure that villain is smart and capable enough to think what slim pickens is thinking

i am a good but not great sng players and generally in this spot i am shipping ATC because "lol bubble"


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