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Jack of Arcades 11-04-2007 09:59 PM

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Funny line:
Week 6 224 yards
Week 7 63 yards
Week 8 70 yards
Week 9 296 yards

Peterson is obviously sick, a lot of talent at RB in the league though.

THAY3R 11-04-2007 10:18 PM

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lol at thayer saying hed rather have reggie bush.

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lol @ you keeping your mouth shut the past 2 weeks.

I still stand by my statement.

Pudge714 11-04-2007 10:41 PM

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A RB who carries it for 4 yds 100% of the time is more valuable than a RB who carries it for 0 yds 90% of the time, and 40 yds 10% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]Of course. That really has nothing to do with anything though.

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It does. A RB who runs 8 yards or 2 yards is more valuable than a RB who runs 12 and -2.
Edit: The first one is an extreme example, but the value of each rushing yard isn't linear. A 2 yard run isn't twice as valuable as a one yard run.

BillNye 11-04-2007 10:45 PM

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A RB who carries it for 4 yds 100% of the time is more valuable than a RB who carries it for 0 yds 90% of the time, and 40 yds 10% of the time.

Pre 1st down yardage > Post 1st down yardage.

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who are you even talking about, or are you speaking hypothetically? If that is the case a RB who gets "4 yards 100% of the time" would obviously be good, you would score every drive...

Anyways, Peterson's runs can often go on funny streaks such as: 1, 4, -1, 2, 1, 10, 2, 60 which is what I think you were referring to. A stat line like that screams to me that the opposing team is stacking the box. When the defense is stacked up in the box they will obviously get into the backfield a lot easier and a lot more often. The downside of that is that if Peterson can get through the box and into the second level all he has to beat is the corners + free safety.

When the Vikings have a QB that isnt the 3rd stringer [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] on the field and actually get a competent QB and as the young WRs progress teams wont be able to stack the box to the extremity that teams are currently doing. You will see a lot more of 4, 6, 1, 2, 12, 6, 4 just because of the fewer defenders in the box.

Imagine if Peterson was in a system such as the Colts where teams must commit to the pass before thinking run. Peterson would run crazy. Football is a team sport and Peterson's streaky gains show just that.

BillNye 11-04-2007 10:48 PM

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lol at thayer saying hed rather have reggie bush.

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lol @ you keeping your mouth shut the past 2 weeks.

I still stand by my statement.

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Reggie Bush is super underated, don't understand the hate on him. Look at him doing exactly what "he couldnt" Take the full load...

Anyways, comparing Bush to Peterson is like comparing Vick to Manning. They are both the same position but in name only because they bring entirely different mismatches to the field.

Dids 11-04-2007 10:49 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
Watching him in college left me with a large man crush on Reggie Bush.

I think Peterson is a MUCH better back for the pro game. However, he needs to run with more care for his body, or he's going to miss a [censored] of games.

Assani Fisher 11-04-2007 10:52 PM

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lol at thayer saying hed rather have reggie bush.

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link? I'd definitely bump that if I were you [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

101,697 and counting

BillNye 11-04-2007 10:54 PM

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Watching him in college left me with a large man crush on Reggie Bush.

I think Peterson is a MUCH better back for the pro game. However, he needs to run with more care for his body, or he's going to miss a fuckload of games.

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Injuries happen to all RBs. Avoiding the hits is obviously a useful skill but eventually injuries will happen to everybody. You can only hope its not too serious such as an ACL.

BillNye 11-04-2007 10:56 PM

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lol at thayer saying hed rather have reggie bush.

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link? I'd definitely bump that if I were you [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

101,697 and counting

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He said it 2 posts above you or so...

Bush seems like a guy that can be meh or amazing depending on the type of offense / talent around him. That being said I still think he is a great RB. Obviously Id prefer my guy, Peterson but Bush is worth his #2 draft selection imo.

Dids 11-04-2007 10:56 PM

Re: Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor -
 
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Watching him in college left me with a large man crush on Reggie Bush.

I think Peterson is a MUCH better back for the pro game. However, he needs to run with more care for his body, or he's going to miss a fuckload of games.

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Injuries happen to all RBs. Avoiding the hits is obviously a useful skill but eventually injuries will happen to everybody. You can only hope its not too serious such as an ACL.

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Yes, everybody gets hurt. Some people get hurt a lot more than others because they insist on jumping around and throwing themselves into people without any regard for their own goodwill.


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