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vixticator 11-04-2007 01:45 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
grunching

No, why would you raise this? There are no bad turn cards and SLAG isn't checking turn. Check and call push on turn.

infinity235 11-04-2007 01:52 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
I push this flop. All day. Why would you NOT play for your stack with an overpair and the nut flush draw?

pegboy 11-04-2007 03:37 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
We have limited reads. Here's what we do know...

1)Villain has $36.60 at a $25 buy-in table. He's here to play some poker.
2)Villain called first in at 6max. He's not very good in that regard.
3)Villain called a big PFR from Hero(in the blind). He chose to show no aggression PF and just call, call.
4)Villain sees 3 spades, a Queen, and a descent continuation bet from Hero yet decides to way overbet the pot. The overbet is ridiculous and beyond what is required to make a flush draw error by calling.
5)Villain does not have the nuts.

Call, call, overbet. Q6, Q5, 65, QQ, 55, 66, XYspades all make sense. Qx is dumb and ulikely to provoke such an overbet although anything is within the realm of possibility.

Given what we know I see insufficient evidence that the villain is dumb/crazy enough to stack off with a holding that is inferior to ours. So I fold until his donkiness is more evident later in the hour.

infinity235 11-04-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
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4)Villain sees 3 spades, a Queen, and a descent continuation bet from Hero yet decides to way overbet the pot. The overbet is ridiculous and beyond what is required to make a flush draw error by calling.


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Is a PSR an overbet? He's betting 7.50 into a 7.50 pot.

DennisGPunkt 11-04-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
Folding/not pushing this would be like folding KK for 100BB pre.

albedoa 11-04-2007 03:57 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
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Don't stack off because you're going to win 52% of the time

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Are you being serious?

Check_The_Nuts 11-04-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
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grunching

No, why would you raise this? There are no bad turn cards and SLAG isn't checking turn. Check and call push on turn.

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if a spade hits this probably will not happen. Thats why

ph2133868789 11-04-2007 06:20 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
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against a player who will probably give you better scenarios in the near future.

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Is this an argument for a push or a fold?

maciczka 11-04-2007 06:31 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
all guys who said they aren't pushing. plz write Your nicks and site where You play.

traz 11-04-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Do I have to push here?
 
happily shove


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