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RedBean 11-03-2007 02:29 AM

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Also, to get a range of scale, here are the Google coordinates of the site:

35.711517, 39.832950

Simple paste that into Google Maps, zoom out a few notches until the resolution is viewable, and obviously, change to satellite view, not map.

Also, Google Earth has higher resolution pics....at least for now.

AlexM 11-03-2007 03:34 AM

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Is that a level?

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You have to ask?

ZeroPointMachine 11-03-2007 03:38 AM

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I played around with Google Earth and the firat two images are approximately 1900 ft x 3500 ft and the main building is roughly 160' square.

tomdemaine 11-03-2007 06:07 AM

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If this is true (any bomb not just a nuke) is it an act of war? I don't know the technicals of the law.

Exsubmariner 11-03-2007 12:35 PM

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I played around with Google Earth and the firat two images are approximately 1900 ft x 3500 ft and the main building is roughly 160' square.

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So we get about the mid section of the photo if we draw a radius from the crater to the edge of the rubble in the partially ruined building. That's about 1000 feet. That damage is consistant with a 10-20 KT device (on the lower end of that scale).

MOAB is still in the running.

From the damage, it looks as if there were one device. There are not multiple craters just one. So, I think that is a good assertion to make. The air strike used one bomb.

Exsubmariner 11-03-2007 12:36 PM

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If this is true (any bomb not just a nuke) is it an act of war? I don't know the technicals of the law.

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I don't know the technicals, either. But, I think its safe to say we probably already are at war.

Exsubmariner 11-03-2007 12:46 PM

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I'm leaning toward MOAB, too. Al-Jazeera may be half right.

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No way in hell we fly a 130 in on a surreptitious first strike, with Syrian Air defense and radar capabilities at full functionality.

*IF* a situation like this were to happen, it would most certainly be a b2 stealth.....but if you assume the fighter escorts are true, then it either had to be a daytime run, or possibly an f-16 with a heavy bag.

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I like your heavy bag theory.

Assume for the moment, though, that we leave the US out of the equation. The Isreali's have C-130's, too. They can buy a MOAB with that 20 Billion Dollar fund the US Government gives them every year. They are certainly confident enough against the syrian air force to use fighters to dominate the sky while they fly a slow mover in to deliver the package.

With the heavy bag Scenario, an f-16 could carry tactical nuke. In fact, it was designed with that in mind. It can deliver it using a lob manueaver, similar to the way you lob a football. Isreal has F-16's and tactical nukes as well.

I think they are hard core enough for either scenario.

2/325Falcon 11-03-2007 02:45 PM

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Why exactly would a US strike require Israeli F-15/F-16 CAP? If you were a USAF officer, why would you put the lives of your men in the hands of the Israeli pilots when US F-22 pilots are more than capable of providing support?

Jamougha 11-03-2007 03:03 PM

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If this is true (any bomb not just a nuke) is it an act of war? I don't know the technicals of the law.

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Line between war and peace seems very fluid in practice.

RedBean 11-03-2007 03:09 PM

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Assume for the moment, though, that we leave the US out of the equation. The Isreali's have C-130's, too. They can buy a MOAB with that 20 Billion Dollar fund the US Government gives them every year. They are certainly confident enough against the syrian air force to use fighters to dominate the sky while they fly a slow mover in to deliver the package.


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Yes, the israelis are nuts enough to fly a c-130 in on a first strike.


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