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27offsuit 10-16-2007 04:21 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
Nice recovery.

You did fine. Better than most, actually.

Mr_Mxyztplk 10-16-2007 04:33 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
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Why in the world is it that every time there is a problem with the dealer making a mistake it has to be a she? I deal. Im male and I have FUBARed way to many hands to remember (i learn from my mistakes but still). So yeh. why is it its always a female that is dealing when someone Fs up.

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because dealing is a chick job,,,,lol

dbldwnblue 10-16-2007 05:45 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
Thats the other thing that I noticed from the post. You showed your hand and even though it was misread you are still the only one to show. He mucked. If he opened his cards and then the dealer inturn mucked them. Then the cards speak since the cameras can see what the cards were and can be corrected.

True, it was a bad call on your part that you mis-stated your hand but he sure as shooting should have asked to see your hand before he tossed his in face down.

To me, you won the hand. Everyone is responsible for their own cards and the SB didnt do that.

pa3lsvt 10-16-2007 05:53 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
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I turn over my hand and say, "I have a straight."
He throws his cards in the muck where they are quickly shuffled in.

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Cards speak, so since you tabled your hand you could have said "I have a Royal" or "I have a Triple Flush" and it wouldn't matter - you have 44AJ6. If you misdeclare your hand *without* tabling it, then KITN and dead hand result.

As played, you have the best properly tabled hand and thus you win the pot. KITN to SB for not tabling his hand, KITN to the dealer for not correcting you, SITH (slap in the head) to you for misreading your hand.

RR 10-16-2007 05:58 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
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I turn over my hand and say, "I have a straight."
He throws his cards in the muck where they are quickly shuffled in.

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Cards speak, so since you tabled your hand you could have said "I have a Royal" or "I have a Triple Flush" and it wouldn't matter - you have 44AJ6. If you misdeclare your hand *without* tabling it, then KITN and dead hand result.

As played, you have the best properly tabled hand and thus you win the pot. KITN to SB for not tabling his hand, KITN to the dealer for not correcting you, SITH (slap in the head) to you for misreading your hand.

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I know that is how he typed it, but I am guessing he stated what he "had" prior to showing the hand.

buddypup 10-16-2007 06:45 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
Its called "Bluffing for a muck", and there is no rule against it. How many times have you gotten HU in a pot, and your opponent says he has some other hand....joking or not. If you muck your hand, it is you fault. I do it at our home games all the time bc its all friends, but I dont think I would do it at a casino, with people that I dont know.

dbldwnblue 10-16-2007 07:09 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
I once had a floorman that used to exclaim he had a "royal house"... dont think anyone ever folded to it.

pfapfap 10-16-2007 07:47 PM

Re: misread my hand, winner mucks
 
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Its called "Bluffing for a muck", and there is no rule against it.

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Let me refer you to Robert's Rules of Poker, under Section 3 > The Showdown:

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2. Cards speak (cards read for themselves). The dealer assists in reading hands, but players are responsible for holding onto their cards until the winner is declared. Although verbal declarations as to the contents of a hand are not binding, deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result in forfeiture of the pot.

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