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I don't waste my time with donkaments.

I could win the WSOP next year and I would still hold the same opinion. Norman Chad would ask me how I feel and I would say "Well Norman, I won the lottery. I sifted through all the donks out here and came out on top. 98% of these players are awful and would get absolutely destroyed in my regular 2/5 game. Donkaments are not poker, but I'll take the $X million, thanks."

Draw, Stud, Community Card...these are "forms" of poker. Donkaments is not a "form" of poker. It is just a bastardization of it.

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So what you're saying is you suck at poker and you can only win at donkaments?

SNGs are not real poker. Yes you can learn to beat them, but that has jack **** to do with how good a poker player you are. If you want to be a good POKER PLAYER, not a SNG DONK, you have to play the NL (or limit if you so choose) cash games.

Anybody that says otherwise is a tourney donk who doesn't know how to play real poker.

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Evank - Here are a few quotes from your blog dated Sep 2, 2006.

'Why is there hatred in the world?'
'What is gained by spreading hate?'
'The way I see it, if only the world would "live and let live", then the world would be one step closer to the utopian world I dream of.'
'I mean tolerance of every person, regardless of whatever differences they may have from what you deem normal or acceptable.'

Your point will be better received if you use less venom.

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lol @ first post exposing Evank

nh

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It's advice. There's no venom there. It's all the truth.

Odd first post though for sure.

And exposing me for what? For being a bleeding heart socialist pacifist? Guilty as charged. That's not something that I hide.

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I don't waste my time with donkaments.

I could win the WSOP next year and I would still hold the same opinion. Norman Chad would ask me how I feel and I would say "Well Norman, I won the lottery. I sifted through all the donks out here and came out on top. 98% of these players are awful and would get absolutely destroyed in my regular 2/5 game. Donkaments are not poker, but I'll take the $X million, thanks."

Draw, Stud, Community Card...these are "forms" of poker. Donkaments is not a "form" of poker. It is just a bastardization of it.

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Says it all for me.

Condescening twidle twadle.

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You posters that think cash games/tournaments/SNGs aren't all challenging and require different skills need to stop regurgitating crap you hear someone else say. Some players are better suited to certain formats more than others, that's all. You might be very skilled with ICM and endgame play as a SNG player, things a cash game player might know little about, just as an example.

I mean I'm a strictly cash player and lol donkaments, but I don't think some people appreciate that there is more to tourneys than lol AK shove.

The OP mentioned he only has a couple of hours to play a week though. You think he should multitable ring games or something as opposed to SNGs? PLease. He's not going to have much of a long term with his limited time to play.

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I would play 2-5 table SnG's at the lowest possible buy-in. Cash games are a good way to lose your small bankroll in a very short time and STT need a specific strategy to cash in them consistently. Look at it this way: If you play a .01/.02 cash game and buy-in for $2, you might spend around $10 in only an hour. 45 player SnG last 1.5-2 hours and cost only $1.20 or $1.25 - much more value for the money imo.

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.2/.5 - I did great. Then I moved down a step after reading about BR management
.1/.2 - Lost a ton of $$ (crazy ass players that I didn't know what to do with)

Then I moved to $3.40 single-table SnGs... and have been winning consistently for 3 months. It's because I have a strategy that helps me place in the money.

I look forward to the day when my BR is big enough that I can lose a lot of $$ learning cash games better...

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So what you're saying is you suck at poker and you can only win at donkaments?

SNGs are not real poker. Yes you can learn to beat them, but that has jack **** to do with how good a poker player you are. If you want to be a good POKER PLAYER, not a SNG DONK, you have to play the NL (or limit if you so choose) cash games.

Anybody that says otherwise is a tourney donk who doesn't know how to play real poker.

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lol

I don't play tourneys often (and when I do it is usually higher buy-in big multi-tables), but SNGs are "real" poker. It is poker that requires a different calculus and skill set from ring games, but it is poker nonetheless. If you learn to be a good SNG player you will have an opportunity to make good money playing poker: There are lots of people that make a good living multi-tabling SNGs. Will you be a good cash game player? Not necessarily. Poker skills don't translate seamlessly from one game to the next: A expert stud player might be a dog in NLHE; Lots of decent NLHE players suck at PLO; Good NLHE players often suck at limit poker.

Lucky

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Thanks again guys....
To illuminate things a little, is anyone able to give me an idea of how play differs in the ring games tactically from SNGs?