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carrotsnake 10-06-2007 06:47 PM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
also, this deep, why would villian raise Axss, as a bluff ? For value ?

Dustinup 10-06-2007 06:57 PM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
hm i would call the turn and check call the river - there are so many hands you beat there (AK AXsuited for example) there is a good chance that he use the Afor a bluff - any stats out about busted draw bluffing?

manupod 10-06-2007 11:16 PM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
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also, this deep, why would villian raise Axss, as a bluff ? For value ?

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you ought to know this

manupod 10-06-2007 11:17 PM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
fwiw i call flop and call most, but not all rivers (prob fold a spade river, for example)

Imrahil 10-07-2007 08:06 AM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
Villain's raise is small enough that it looks like they're bluffing since they don't want to risk too much if you call. I'd call and c/c most rivers cept the 6, T, spade.

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 10-07-2007 08:09 AM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
$199

El_Hombre_Grande 10-07-2007 08:59 AM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
I think it could be a number of hands which you have beat, including a bluff off the Ace, a good A, and spades. A10 is obviously a possibility, but even if you did get coolered here its still just one of a number of holdings he could hold. I think you put in a big raise here. Spades will call, A solid A may call (which you should be ambivalent to, if you set the price right) and I doubt you were getting anymore from a bluff once you've decided to call. And yeah, you're going to get coolered with A10 but I think the combo of the draw the bluff at A and a good A means you are ahead in most instances.

Unknown Soldier 10-07-2007 09:10 AM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
just call, his range is pretty damn polarized imo

ManChild 10-07-2007 06:30 PM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
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manchild, A2 and A3 are nothing alike here, the fact that I believe he's bluffing does not mean I believe that 1 pair and 2 pair have the same equity

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thanks for clarifying [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] , thats what i thought

klownage 10-07-2007 06:49 PM

Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep
 
I think anything but calling is pretty bad.


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