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Re: 1-2 preflop question.....can I call here from the BB with 92s?

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So I take it you would limp this on the button after a bunch of callers too? Of course you wouldn't!

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this is not nearly as big an error as you are making it sound. its a small mistake in this spot.

over like 100,000 hands this will show up as -EV, which is why its a fold pf on the button.

the reason you can call in the BB is because of the money you had to post before the cards were dealt, swinging a very slightly -EV decision to a very small +EV side.

Re: 1-2 preflop question.....can I call here from the BB with 92s?

I would fold pre-flop without a second thought, but I don’t think it is that big a mistake to call. It depends on how well you play post flop. In my mind this kind of hand makes the second best hand too often to be profitable, but if you play well enough post flop I don’t see any problem with it.

Re: 1-2 preflop question.....can I call here from the BB with 92s?

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So I take it you would limp this on the button after a bunch of callers too? Of course you wouldn't!

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this is not nearly as big an error as you are making it sound. its a small mistake in this spot.

over like 100,000 hands this will show up as -EV, which is why its a fold pf on the button.

the reason you can call in the BB is because of the money you had to post before the cards were dealt, swinging a very slightly -EV decision to a very small +EV side.

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I agree that this is not necessarily an error, but I think that most people at this level don't have the post flop skills necessary for this to be worth the VERY slight +ev you can extract from this hand. For many players a hand like this is far too easy to lose bets on when they catch a piece of the flop and it's not worth the energy to try to extract that tiny bit of value. Better to save the mental energy and move on to the next hand. Also, playing hands like this increases your variance and has the potential to put people on tilt when you lose to a bigger flush, bigger trips, or bigger two pair.