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I got a fake "old" $100 bill at the Taj about two years ago. Found out it was fake when I tried to cash it at a Subway in NYC.

I returned it for 20 red chips at the same cage I got it from a week later.

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Just a word of caution, I recently had a casino reject a fake new-style 100 that I'm 99% certain they gave me 3 days before when I cashed out (since I keep my gambling bankroll separate and I had just had a big cashout a few days earlier, and I put recent money on top and take it off the top).

Also, they kept the bill, so I was out $100 (and went in their records for trying to pass counterfeit).

By the way, I remember the bill felt kind of funny in my hand, as someone mentioned above. Like it was too thick or something.

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Yeah, this is the real problem.

The guys arguing that there are lots of counterfeit bills and by implication therefore we ought not worry about the possibility are throwing out a red herring.

The real issue to anyone of us is that we pocket the bill, and then at some later point in time attempt to buy chips or deposit it in the bank, it is discovered by someone trained to spot the fakes, and we are out the $100.

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If I have a lot of red chips and the dealer is getting short, I don't want to really slow the game down by needing a fill soon, so I will sell someone a stack or two, then immediately hand the dealer the bills and ask for green $25 chips, which they usually have plenty of. Doesn't take any more time, the table won't need a fill soon, and I don't have to have cash on the table which could be fake or stolen when I go to the bathroom.

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As a dealer, THANK YOU to people who sell chips when we need them. I had a heck of a time at a 15/30 game this morning. A lot of fish buying in short, people insisting on holding onto those $100 chips until the last minute, and the night shift rotating with the daytime shift. Also crazy mad action, lots of side pots. The chip runner was having a hard time keeping up, and I only had at most a stack in my rack at any time. At the same time, I had to fix up a rack left as a mess by the previous dealer and deal with some late time charges. So, er, I was busy.

A couple of people stepped up and sold many stacks as needed, then got them from the chip runners. This made what would've been a headache a total breeze... well, okay, that's not true, but at least not a headache. It also went a long way towards happy cooperative feelings at the table in general, which leads to more action... I do ask people to do it, too, but sometimes as a dealer it can be awkward to encourage a cash transaction between strangers.

Okay, hijack over, carry on.

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I got a fake "old" $100 bill at the Taj about two years ago. Found out it was fake when I tried to cash it at a Subway in NYC.

I returned it for 20 red chips at the same cage I got it from a week later.

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They didn't confiscate it from you in NY? Messed up.

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I got a fake "old" $100 bill at the Taj about two years ago. Found out it was fake when I tried to cash it at a Subway in NYC.

I returned it for 20 red chips at the same cage I got it from a week later.

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They didn't confiscate it from you in NY? Messed up.

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You really think Subway wants to try to tackle this? They don't KNOW the bill is a fake. They suspect it is. If they confiscate it and refuse to compensate someone, and it turns out the bill is not counterfeit, boy are they asking for it. I would be a most displeased customer if I ended up spending an hour at a Subway because some schmuck of a store manager THOUGHT these new fangled bills with funny colors were fakes. I fail to see what legal ground they stand on to seize your property based on suspicion. But IANAL and perhaps there are good samaritan provisions to allow it. But it's really a lose/lose proposition for the business to try to grab it.

One thing keeping the good citizens of the country from stopping the circulation of these is that you're basically playing hot-potato with 'em. Whoever ends up holding it at the time the music stops is out $100. So there's no incentive to do the right thing and turn it in and instead folks just keep passing 'em around even when they're pretty sure it's bad hoping the next person will accept it.

I did have a problem once at an Arby's. Hand 'em a pretty multi-color new bill and the clerk laughs and pushes it back. I push it forward and the clerk gets very serious and says "sir, it isn't funny anymore" and pushes it back to me. I don't try to argue with her and just tell her to get her manager. He comes over and rolls his eyes and tells the register clerk "I TOLD YOU about these new bills!"

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I have heard that the 100 (number) in the right corner is hard to fake. Tilt it too see it turn from green to brown.

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Memphis,

Shortly after I moved to LV a convenience store clerk tried to tell me that I had just given her a counterfeit 100 because it failed the marker test. She also said she was going to keep it. I said (in a VERY friendly and inquisitive voice) "Really? It's a fake? Let me see, show me!" and got the bill back from her. No way in hell was I going to let go of it again. Since I didn't do anything wrong I wasn't going to let an idiot clerk talk me out of a bill just because her training tells her to confiscate such. A more knowledgable employee told me to run it through one of the poker slot machines. I did and it accepted it so they accepted it.

Don't ever let a cop, a casino employee or anyone take your property away from you. Even if you did give them a fake there is no crime because there is no intent. That "phony" bill still belongs to you, regardless of what they say to the contrary. Hold on to it for dear life and dare them to arrest you if you must. They won't. They're just playing the intimidation game. You only lose if you give in.

It has been standard operating procedure for many businesses locally to not accept old-style 100s. I recommend that you don't either, just to protect yourself.

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Don't ever let a cop, a casino employee or anyone take your property away from you. Even if you did give them a fake there is no crime because there is no intent. That "phony" bill still belongs to you, regardless of what they say to the contrary. Hold on to it for dear life and dare them to arrest you if you must. They won't. They're just playing the intimidation game. You only lose if you give in.


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This is not true. A financial institution must take it.

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I got a 50 from someone at the table the other day and one of the 4 "50"s was smaller and looked like weird text. It was also pink on both left and right ends. I was most displeased and traded it for two 25 chips with no issues with the chip runner, i just didnt want it on me.