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Toni Cogin 09-06-2007 01:20 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
folding AK on BB even vs nit is terrible in 5 handed game...
(even if he's only 3betting JJ+AQ+ -which is supernitmode- pushing AK there is profitable)

benlj21 09-06-2007 01:21 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
I dunno, I think this is a call because of the pot odds. I think maybe you should make it 40-45 the first time tho so you have better odds for a clear call.

Imrahil 09-06-2007 01:30 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
The original raiser is 12/10. Not sure if villain knows that or not.

luckybacon 09-06-2007 01:46 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
i definitely would call here

FGators 09-06-2007 01:48 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
[ QUOTE ]
call:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 172384116 626394.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 114030168 626394.00 { QQ }

168/448=0.375

+ he also could be doing this with QQ and air some % of the time

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for the stats but put a "0" in front of that % and we are straight.

luckybacon 09-06-2007 01:49 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
i made this exact same play with jj the other day, so i think if he could have a wider range

Jay Riall 09-06-2007 01:51 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
Yeah I've occasionally seen TT/JJ/AQ/air here before. Uncommon yes, but it still should definitely be included in his range.

FGators 09-06-2007 01:53 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
pocketpair or whatever his name is a good player and is cogniscent of how the other players play/has pokertracker.

If he's pushing 56o to pick up the money in the pot after a 12/10 nit raised and a TAG 3 bet this nit from MP then lets see I'd be more than surprised.

pineapple888 09-06-2007 01:55 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yeah I've occasionally seen TT/JJ/AQ/air here before. Uncommon yes, but it still should definitely be included in his range.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed. I sigh and call unless I'm real sure he's folding AK. Enough people know about squeezes now that I have to think Villain thinks Hero is light.

Whoever said you shouldn't risk your stack for a 2% edge must have bankroll issues, and it's more than 2% anyway for the above reason.

pineapple888 09-06-2007 01:56 PM

Re: 200NL- Squeeze QQ and BB shoves
 
[ QUOTE ]
pocketpair or whatever his name is a good player and is cogniscent of how the other players play/has pokertracker.

If he's pushing 56o to pick up the money in the pot after a 12/10 nit raised and a TAG 3 bet this nit from MP then lets see I'd be more than surprised.

[/ QUOTE ]

Apparently he doesn't know anything about the players at this level according to OP.


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