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goofyballer 09-01-2007 11:36 PM

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^ overreacting

EDIT: To expound, he's not saying that these kids deserved it, or are guilty, he's just pointing out that while all of us here are like ZOMG THIS IS A HUGE INJUSTICE (which he isn't disputing) we're ignoring, or are unaware of the fact, that kids get away with this all the time.

Courtesy Flush 09-01-2007 11:39 PM

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this is astoundingly racist, and i don't even think you realize it.

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No it isn't. You just want it to be.

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because some black kids start fights, these kids obviously were guilty?

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Who said that? The only comment I made about these kids is that I think what is being done to them is wrong. I didn't say they are guilty, I didn't say they are innocent, I didn't even watch the video. I am commenting on a related problem in this country that I have personally witnessed far too many times.

OLDMONGOO$E 09-01-2007 11:40 PM

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The video states that the black student was jumped by a group of white kids at an earlier party and he was being taunted by the white student for being beaten up...I have no clue if the group of white students who jumped him are being charged with that crime but I would sure like to know

Teh1337zor 09-01-2007 11:41 PM

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Ok, I am with you guys about this being wrong and obviously the people involved are seriously overreacting to this, but I would like to point out one thing. Black on white violence is ridiculous among children. If you're white, not expecially large, and you go to a public school in any city in America, you learn very fast to fear nearly every dark skinned minority you see, particularly when you're alone and they're not. If you grew up in a suberb or went to private school you'll never be able to understand what I mean, but it's true. I couldn't tell you how many of my friends growing up got jumped by groups of black kids for no damn reason, myself included obviously. Nothing ever happens to them either because they either don't get caught, or they get let off with a warning because all of the teachers are infested with liberal guilt. Additionally, kids tend to have the mentality of being able to do anything they want regardless of laws that could only send them to juvinile hall at worst anyway.

Now I'm not saying I think making an example out of a random group of kids like this is correct in any way. But I do think a message needs to be sent or something needs to be done to protect non-violent children who can't even protect themselves from being beaten up by packs of lawless child thugs. It is emotionally scarring and should not go unnoticed as often as it does.

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the reason this is such a big injustice is bc the white kids had beat one of the 6 just days b4

minnesotasam 09-01-2007 11:42 PM

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Black on white violence is ridiculous among children. If you're white, not expecially large, and you go to a public school in any city in America, you learn very fast to fear nearly every dark skinned minority you see, particularly when you're alone and they're not.. Nothing ever happens to them either because they either don't get caught, or they get let off with a warning because all of the teachers are infested with liberal guilt. Additionally, kids tend to have the mentality of being able to do anything they want regardless of laws that could only send them to juvinile hall at worst anyway.

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Wow, jesus, this is horrible.

For the record, since this is BBV, I am:
[x]White
[x]Went to public school
[x]Was considered "inner-city" or whatever, ~40% white
[ ]"expecially" large
[ ]Have any clue wtf you are talking about

Stop making national generalizations for your own experiences. I had many friends in high school that were white, black, asian, and latino. Same for my friends at neighboring schools. Claiming that all inner-city public high schools are urban warfare sites is hilariously wrong. I played varsity baesball (nearly all-white team/fans/opponents) and basketball (nearly all-black team/fans/opponents) and never felt uncomfortable in either atmosphere throughout high school.

Madman Madman 09-01-2007 11:44 PM

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what good is our donations going to do for them to hire the best defense if the whole court is rigged in the first place

Courtesy Flush 09-01-2007 11:45 PM

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Okay so there are exceptions, I shouldn't have overgeneralized. Clearly I am talking about public schools near areas that spawn "ghetto" type kids.

I'm also not saying it's every single black kid. Obviously there are nice ones, nerdy ones, defenseless ones, etc. I had non-white friends same as anyone. I'm talking about the random groups of mean looking thugs you have to walk past to get home every day.

furyshade 09-01-2007 11:47 PM

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this is astoundingly racist, and i don't even think you realize it.

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No it isn't. You just want it to be.

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because some black kids start fights, these kids obviously were guilty?

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Who said that? The only comment I made about these kids is that I think what is being done to them is wrong. I didn't say they are guilty, I didn't say they are innocent, I didn't even watch the video. I am commenting on a related problem in this country that I have personally witnessed far too many times.

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i mean, its kind of ridiculous to make that post in this thread, then say "well i wasn't talking about the kids that OP talked about". if that is what you are saying, then you shouldn't have posted about punishing black kids who beat up white kids in this thread. from what i read in your post, you imply that the white kid was innocent, which is made clearly not the case.

minnesotasam 09-01-2007 11:47 PM

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Okay so there are exceptions, I shouldn't have overgeneralized. Clearly I am talking about public schools near areas that spawn "ghetto" type kids.

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This was the center of my hs basketball team:
http://info.doc.state.mn.us/PublicVi...asp?OID=216716

So am I.

jfish 09-01-2007 11:48 PM

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what good is our donations going to do for them to hire the best defense if the whole court is rigged in the first place

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reaaaaaaaaaaaaallly bad attitude to have. not just regarding this either.


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