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JacksonTens 08-24-2007 12:02 AM

Re: What is this guy misplaying?
 
If he thinks your good and you think he is good I can't see what he'll call down a 3bet with... But then you do seem to do some spazzy chit form time to time...

he could have a Q+FD, and he may have called for the card he wanted, sometimes I call for the card I want accidentally, like I'll say 'King' cos I like to say 'King', not realising that specific nanosecond that I have AJ and a K gives me a Gshot or sum chit. I dunno. Maybe villain is like me...

btw I prolly b/c, c/c maybe b/f river if you wanna be a sick good live folder in big potsa.. if you 3bet turn you cant call down a cap btw... or can you?

JT

Lestat 08-24-2007 02:19 AM

Re: What is this guy misplaying?
 
Well, it's a rainbow flop and he'd have the nuts with AQ. The worst that can happen on the turn is someone hitting a 3-outer to chop (3-outer to them. Possibly 6 total outs, but it certainly doesn't have to be nearly that many).

He could be hoping for someone to c/r the flop. I wouldn't say this line would have to be a misplay. Yeah, he's passing up EV by not raising pf, which he should usually do. But I don't think it's terrible to limp with AQo here. Especially if good players are already in.

[edit:] Or... If someone flopped two pair they have 4 outs to pull ahead on the turn. Still, I don't think just calling the flop is terrible here with AQ. All hypothetical anyway, cuz I'm prolly wrong about the AQ! -lol)

HollywoodDB 08-25-2007 02:10 AM

Re: What is this guy misplaying?
 
I think the call for an A is BS. I think he has KTs (which some will say to raise, but he might not) or KJo. I don't think he has Q9 cuz you said he doesn't play many hands, so I don't know why he'd decide to suddenly play q9. I think he is raising AQ.

Victor 08-25-2007 02:43 AM

Re: What is this guy misplaying?
 
89cc

ssmallz 08-26-2007 04:23 PM

Re: What is this guy misplaying?
 
I have a sneaking suspicion villain has some sort of combo draw like an oesdfd or pair + flushdraw. Other possibilities include KT, KJ, KQ, and Q9s. Do I 3bet or not? Depends on my read. I can discount the 2 pair hands here b/c I think he would raise the flop w/2pair more often than waiting for the turn b/c the flop is so draw heavy and a good player would know this and want to protect his hand. I think a very good case can be made for 3 betting the turn and checking the river.

PokerBob 08-26-2007 08:22 PM

results
 
100/200

Villain has not done anything exceptional that I have seen in the few hours that I have played with him. He is running good and wearing sunglasses. He does not play too many hands preflop, and has no other glaring weaknesses that I have been able to diagnose at this point. I am blowing at this point, and likely stuck 8K in the game. I have no idea if he is aware of this.

1 guy limps, I limp J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP, villain limps the button, blinds come along. I think it was 5 ways to the flop. Maybe 6. Whatever.

flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
checks to me and I bet, button calls and maybe a limper calls.

As the turn is being dealt, villain says "ace". I have no idea what this means.

turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, villain now raises (if anyone was in the pot behind me, they are gone now), I do what and why and what on earth does this guy have that makes any sense at all?

I called the turn. I think 3betting the turn may be right, for if this guy is at all competent (which I assumed he was) he doesn't have anything here, except something like Axcc. Then again, once he takes this line he HAS to bet the river, so maybe we should let him barrell away. I was calling any non-club. At least I thought I was.

The river was a red whore, and I check/folded as now I don't beat a damn thing except 98cc.

Victor 08-26-2007 09:22 PM

Re: results
 
"I don't beat a damn thing except 98cc"

umm, no, you still lose.

egocidal 08-26-2007 11:03 PM

Re: results
 
How does he lose to 89cc here? they have 89TJK and four clubs as their hand.

PokerBob 08-26-2007 11:09 PM

Re: results
 
[ QUOTE ]
"I don't beat a damn thing except 98cc"

umm, no, you still lose.

[/ QUOTE ]

i meant 87. either way, i beat nothing.

casellaKid 08-27-2007 12:44 AM

Re: results
 
[ QUOTE ]
The river was a red whore, and I check/folded as now I don't beat a damn thing except 98cc.

[/ QUOTE ]

You also beat Kc8c which is what I had, not that I blame you for folding there.


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