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i'm just curious about this game in general-how often do people stack off for ~500bbs preflop with less than AA?

is it just in really contrived situations like this that it becomes feasible,or are the games so aggro that you're just hardly ever folding big pairs regardless of stacks?

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What is max/min buy in?

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I would guess that the backraise is prominent because people routinely make it 15+ BBs with garbage hands and get lots of callers.

I'll go with (TWP's?) advice: reraise enough that you're committed and plan to get it allin. Given what you did, I'd still get allin.

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I predict the results; hero called and lost to AA, KK or AK.

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way to go out on a limb, mdma [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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i'm just curious about this game in general-how often do people stack off for ~500bbs preflop with less than AA?

is it just in really contrived situations like this that it becomes feasible,or are the games so aggro that you're just hardly ever folding big pairs regardless of stacks?

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it's rare to see people stack off for 250bbs with less than AK. The problem with this hand is: I just wanted to pick up the 7k in the middle with no showdown, and instead I priced myself into calling.

When he shoves 24k in the middle having only 1500 invested, after I backraised, he is likely to have AK/AA/KK. Even if he has that range though, it looks like I am STILL priced into calling, which is my mistake. In retrospect, I like making it 7k and folding to a shove a lot better than what I did.

dlpnyc21

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Because of how suspect your play can look sometimes, his range isn't only AA, KK and AK here. That's most of his range, but you can't throw out JJ, TT completely.

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how do u do in this game btw..are u one of the biggest winners?

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i do fairly well in the game. there are some HUGE winners in the game, and it's pretty easy to tell who they are. i am not among the biggest winners (although i am significantly up) in the game. i also don't always play the 25/50 because i either get there too late or i am not first up on the "priority" list.

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Because of how suspect your play can look sometimes, his range isn't only AA, KK and AK here. That's most of his range, but you can't throw out JJ, TT completely.

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if the pot was HU, i'd agree with you. but there is no telling what the SB/BB, or original raiser could have woken up with (esp. the original raiser), making shoving with TT there suicide. i said the villain reraised preflop more than most...i didn't say he was an idiot.
dlpnyc21

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and btw what did u have in the hand where it was 8jk with 2 diamonds cause i had 87 where the dude on ur left made a 1k donk bet and u called and i made it 4k

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I had A10dd.

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puke

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Because of how suspect your play can look sometimes, his range isn't only AA, KK and AK here. That's most of his range, but you can't throw out JJ, TT completely.

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I have seen others stack off in this spot with jacks before. I've done it myself.