Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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wow you think he wouldn't fold an under pair to a two barrel? possibly not given AZ's note on me, but that's pretty bad news long term IMO.

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results?

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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wow you think he wouldn't fold an under pair to a two barrel? possibly not given AZ's note on me, but that's pretty bad news long term IMO.

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Not really. Its pretty bad to make a flop call based on a read and then fold blank turn to a second barrel. If I put you on air on the flop, I will call you turn bet and your river push. Sometimes I read wrong, sometimes you catch some card on the river, but usually I win [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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Out of position I would assume a 2p2er would raise a set?? I think your fold equity is low because the 2d doesn't change anything for the villain.

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I think on a flop this dry facing he someone he apparently sees as aggressive there is no need to raise with a set.

The dry turn card was one reason I decided to two barrel. That might have been a bit advanced, but making a read that I am cbetting on the flop and then calling two more barrels is absolutely disasterous IMO.


results:

i took a while to work out what to do, and in the end decided to bet. i made a slightly weaksauce $5 bet cos I was running out of time and got check-raised to $16. I was struggling a bit with the odds cos someone was talking but I eventually folded. I possibly got pwned given small cr and could have called given my implied odds (I was getting 27% pot odds).

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

Boz, you had a tiny positive equity here without considering the implied odds. Like literally, half a percent or even less.

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i know, what's the problem?

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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i know, what's the problem?

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you made a bet with no pot equity and no fold equity

thats a problem

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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i know, what's the problem?

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Why did you fold then? A call was profitable.

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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i know, what's the problem?

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Why did you fold then? A call was profitable.

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are you levelling or something? you're not making much sense.

yes a call was profitable given my implied odds but i wasn't able to calculate it at the time.

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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i know, what's the problem?

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you made a bet with no pot equity and no fold equity

thats a problem

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you know thats not right, and it's also not the problem he was referring to.

Re: $30nl two barrel a backdoor draw vs 2p2er?
 

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i know, what's the problem?

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Why did you fold then? A call was profitable.

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are you levelling or something? you're not making much sense.

yes a call was profitable given my implied odds but i wasn't able to calculate it at the time.

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Call was profitable even without implied ones. If you miscalculated though its fine, happens.