Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

I think this is more likely to be the nuts (AK+) or a total whiff than some of the hands people have suggested.

Keep in mind that the turn check cannot serve as pot control since there's only one pot-sized bet left.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

are there more 4b pots you've played where he's taken a similar line on the turn and you've taken it away?

i think this is a fold, AK is likely a call. this is definetly a fold if the answer above is a yes.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

I had K2o, i get really really bored playing 1/2 and do retarded [censored] a lot of the time because I don't care about the money. If you are playing against me at 1/2 or 2/4 and I do something that makes no sense you should call because i'm probably tilting or very bored.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

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did u call him?

I would really like to see what he had.

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pay2see surrr.

- i like to think he has a suited connector here, probably AK, unless you think he's spastic enough to have top set.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

Grunch,
Calling the initial 4bet will always put you in a terrible spot postflop unless you are a planning on running a decent amount of bluffs postflop which would mean villain has a huge 4bet range here (I dunno if you were). 90% of the time Im just going to 5bet or fold this preflop unless I think I can get a lot of credit by cold calling the 4bet.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

His play is confusing enough to warrant a call . You just need to win around 33% of the time to show a profit . Also , there is a possibility that he may have the same hand as yours since there are 8 AK hands and 6 AQ hands which isn't much of a difference .
The call pre-flop is questionable and probably worth a fold but that's besides the point .

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

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The call pre-flop is questionable and probably worth a fold but that's besides the point .

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Can't fold, hand too strong. Deep enough to call instead of push.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

I still think this is a call.

I ended up playing this guy later, short session, he took a few buy-ins off me...after playing him I think this is a call even more than I already did. I was like 70/30 call but I think it's more like 90/10.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

Look at it from the villain's perspective. Unless you are a really trappy player he has a pretty easy shove no matter his holdings, considering the action.

Re: NLCASH $200, deepstacked with TP2K
 

I think after you didn't have the odds to call the 4-bet if you could possibly fold here. Your hand looks a lot like KK or QQ and if its a supped up match I could see a very good or very spewy villian turning jj into a bluff here. I really think this is either a fold preflop or a call here. I would have just pushed myself on the flop hoping for a call from A-rag or KK/QQ making a hero call. You probably aren't getting any more value on later streets anyway, and I think the flop is your best shot, and you don't allow for 2-6 outers to hit. Then again, I push the flop a lot in re-raised pots.