Re: KJs in SB vs PFR
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WTF..? I am never half right but always 100% right! [ QUOTE ] why are you betting? what hand is going to call you? [/ QUOTE ] Worse J's, pp's and Tx [ QUOTE ] a key here is, the villian might bluff with PP, but may fold if we bet. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I dont see how we can ever expect that... [ QUOTE ] He will also bet and Q, J, and probably T if he check. [/ QUOTE ] Him checking behind a T or J is fairly likely IMO [ QUOTE ] HE can't really have a J or T, unless he's horrible. [/ QUOTE ] Its an unknown at 0.5/1 FWIW I dont think betting is super standard and there are prolly villains out there where c/c is better. I was mostly chocked by people wanting to call the raise. |
Re: KJs in SB vs PFR
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FWIW I dont think betting is super standard and there are prolly villains out there where c/c is better. I was mostly chocked by people wanting to call the raise. [/ QUOTE ] Although I'm sure you're right, a few things: 1. I have seen many villains try desperation bluffs with busted flush draws, busted straight draws (not many here, but still possible), or even something like 44. Of course, getting 9:1 is probably not enough hoping to catch a pure bluff. 2. Bet/folding a river in a blind/button battle is going to make people take a ton of shots at you in similar situations. I think not bet/folding with marginal hands may be a leak of mine. On a scale of 1-10, how big of a mistake do you think calling this river is? |
Re: KJs in SB vs PFR
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On a scale of 1-10, how big of a mistake do you think calling this river is? [/ QUOTE ] 1000000 Quoting metagame reasons for calling is just not good enough. - People are grossly overestimating how often this gets bluff raised - An unknown a 0.5/1 is not going to go nuts on the river just cuz you bet/fold a few times That said you should off course take Shania into consideration, however, this does not mean blindly calling down. It means making more calls after bet/folding a few times and making more folds after a few loose call downs. |
Re: KJs in SB vs PFR
Thanks Oink.
Another leak to plug... |
Re: KJs in SB vs PFR
Hi,
thanks a lot for your participation. Indeed, I was shown QJ. However, I don't think b/f is right against an unknown. For sure, I might be beaten, and I might be beaten quite often. But the pot is quite big at this point and I'm pretty sure you'll catch sby raising this river with a worse J, Tx, a busted draw or even 72o more than once in 10. Of course, I might induce a (semi)bluff with a less J, Tx, a smaller PP or a air again, but I doubt this overbalances the b/c line. Kind regards |
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