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Thremp 08-05-2007 05:19 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
LOL @ Winny-V being used for "strength".

Put that clown on a test/deca cycle and rerun.

mindflayer 08-07-2007 01:09 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
I know this is probably not relavent, and that with training I could get my wrists to be more flexible, BUT;

I looked at my hand and pointed it upward = 12 o clock.
I flexed it down and could get 90 degrees = 9 o clock,
then i tried to flex it backwards and got
as far as 45 degrees, it hurt if i went farther = 1:30
(no weight bearing on my wrists)
To do that wierd push up you need to put your wrist at
approx 135 degrees = 4:30 and put half your body weight
on each wrist.

shemp 08-07-2007 02:01 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
You could try it on parallettes if you think wrist flexibility is the sticking point.

(Btw, I don't have a planche and am not trying to attain one.)

Leaky Eye 08-07-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
I don't know how I am supposed to guess how hard that push up is. I have never done one. I would imagine it is mostly body tension control and not strength.

I am pretty sure there is nothing I could do to get a 36 inch vert. So i choose that.

Uston 08-08-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
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Uston,

Why would EPO, a compound used by bikers to increase RBC count and thus improve aerobic prowess, do much with respect to extremely short term explosive power production?

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Eh, pharmacology isn't my strong suit, LDO. My thoughts were that the EPO would help get someone's bodyfat freakishly low.

dzh90 08-08-2007 02:42 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
I'm 6'4" and the only one of these that seems possible at all for me is a 3xBW deadlift. I can do 2xBW without too much work on it. I've been squatting 3x per week for the last year and a half to get to 325lb ATG. No way will I ever get to 600lb+. Some short stubby guys make it seem easy to squat 2.5xBW or bench 2xBW.

True 36" standing vert is very rare.

Alobar 08-08-2007 03:34 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
blah blah blah it depends on the person

but for your typical run of the mill average reasonably fit person, its the 36" vertical and it isnt even remotely close.

Also the planche looks sick hard, but would actually be MUCH easier to achieve through training for your average person than a 2x bench and the other lifting feats.

Thremp 08-08-2007 05:25 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
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I'm 6'4" and the only one of these that seems possible at all for me is a 3xBW deadlift. I can do 2xBW without too much work on it. I've been squatting 3x per week for the last year and a half to get to 325lb ATG. No way will I ever get to 600lb+. Some short stubby guys make it seem easy to squat 2.5xBW or bench 2xBW.

True 36" standing vert is very rare.

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There are entire NCAA D1 secondaries where no starter or regular has under a 36 inch vert. I'm sure anyone at the Olympic trials for high jump can match this in addition to a decent number of volleyball and basketball players or any other vertical leap sports.

The raw 3x dead is probably more rare than a dude with a 36 inch vert.

timex 08-08-2007 06:45 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I'm 6'4" and the only one of these that seems possible at all for me is a 3xBW deadlift. I can do 2xBW without too much work on it. I've been squatting 3x per week for the last year and a half to get to 325lb ATG. No way will I ever get to 600lb+. Some short stubby guys make it seem easy to squat 2.5xBW or bench 2xBW.

True 36" standing vert is very rare.

[/ QUOTE ]

There are entire NCAA D1 secondaries where no starter or regular has under a 36 inch vert. I'm sure anyone at the Olympic trials for high jump can match this in addition to a decent number of volleyball and basketball players or any other vertical leap sports.

The raw 3x dead is probably more rare than a dude with a 36 inch vert.

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I played volleyball fairly competitively in high school in Canada, and 36 inch verticles were very common, and many of the players I played with didn`t do any jump training or even much athletic activity outside of volleyball.

I`d assume that of people who get very competitive in volleyball/basketball, quite a huge % can jump.

thirddan 08-08-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Which one is hardest?
 
i don't know much about jumping...how technical is it to actually jump properly? i imagine that with a bit of training a person could improve their vert a bit...


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