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aK13 07-12-2007 06:31 PM

Re: Mine Dribbles (NC Thread)
 
[ QUOTE ]
/content but is that oop flop cap standard?

[/ QUOTE ]

Clearly boz must have misread his pattern mapper.

EDIT: As more content I like donking that flop for various reasons.

I'm actually thinking that had would be kinda worth discussing, if you wanna send me PM or AIM boz. Or turn it into a blind D post.

Christian_Peters 07-12-2007 06:54 PM

Too bad I didn\'t play this live...
 
...cause I would have won the lion's share of the bad beat jackpot.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif.
1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises</font>, 4 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, 1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="red">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="red">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="red">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.80 (All-In), MP1 calls.

River: (21.10 BB) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="red">Hero bets</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="red">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="red">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 29.10 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Hero has Ad Ac (full house, aces full of queens).
UTG+1 has 9h As (two pair, aces and queens).
MP1 has Qs Qh (four of a kind, queens).
Outcome: MP1 wins 29.10 BB.

Anyone good enough to not cap the river?

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Zeldark 07-12-2007 07:01 PM

Re: Too bad I didn\'t play this live...
 
If pokerstars HAD a BB jackpot!

Christian_Peters 07-12-2007 07:03 PM

And this is even worse...
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed)
UTG+1 ($18.95)
MP1 ($51.05)
Hero ($11)
CO ($14.40)
Button ($47.35)
SB ($49.45)
BB ($10)
UTG ($48.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif.
1 fold</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, 1 fold</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, 4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($6.75) Thttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)</font>
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $0.5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 calls $7.50.

Turn: ($22.75) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players)</font>

River: ($22.75) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $22.75

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 has 8c Ah (straight, ten high).
Hero has Jc Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $22.75. </font>

I think I laughed out loud.

00Snitch 07-12-2007 07:10 PM

Re: And this is even worse...
 
/content

I don't think I cap that heads-up OOP.

In fact, that hand, I'm pretty sure I c/c it down. In fact, I don't think there is a better way to play it. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Your flop raising might have an edge, but it can't be that big.

Especially if you can't hit one of about 18 outs - TWICE!.

BigBadBabar 07-12-2007 08:39 PM

Re: And this is even worse...
 
you're shortstacking nl50?

Christian_Peters 07-12-2007 09:03 PM

Expert Play...
 
I wasn't even involved in this hand... but it's an insta-classic. Just see for yourself...


PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

River: (12.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB


Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Tc 8c (full house, fives full of tens).
UTG has 8d 8h (full house, fives full of eights).
CO has 9s 9h (full house, fives full of nines).
Outcome: SB wins 15.50 BB. </font>

NIX 07-12-2007 09:06 PM

Re: Mine Dribbles (NC Thread)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I just pissed away 60bb in under an hour 4 tabling 0.5/1. Way to go me. Couldn't win a pot even if I flopped the nuts. River would always give someone a better hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

I was down like 60BB at .5/1 last night and pulled out of it. So just do what I did.

First, step A. Get owned a lot.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls.

River: (13.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Kc Kd (three of a kind, kings).
UTG has Ah Qs (straight, ace high).
Outcome: UTG wins 17.50 BB.


Step B. Continue to get owned, but narrow it down to just by bennyhana.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">benny raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, benny calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, benny calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">benny raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB


Step C. Proceed to play like crap, yet find a way to make money somehow.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, MP calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: (4.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 5s Jh (one pair, fives).
MP has Js 2h (one pair, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 4.50 BB.


Then, get a graph that looks like this:

http://people.clarkson.edu/~schaefjr/images/071107b.jpg

nomadtla 07-12-2007 09:10 PM

Re: Mine Dribbles (NC Thread)
 
DAMN you AussieB I had a great response for that NL guy cause he told Kit that if he didn't see the strategy in his dumb whine post that he should stay in limit. As if limit is below him. But you locked the thread as it deserved. I just had to vent cause I can not stand the NL&gt;Limit people, esspescially when they don't even understand the basics.

Christian_Peters 07-12-2007 09:11 PM

Re: And this is even worse...
 
lol...

yeah, I was short-stacking even bigger stakes too - STFU already. It was tilt, believe you me. And it all worked out for the best because...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($238)
UTG ($98.75)
MP1 ($94)
MP2 ($280.65)
CO ($246)
Button ($17.55)
Hero ($38)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $2, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $6</font>, UTG calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $12</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $36</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $24.

Turn: ($94) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($94) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $94

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP1 has 8s 7s (flush, eight high).
Hero has 6h 6c (three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: MP1 wins $94. </font>

I stopped SS'ing shortly after this hand.


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