Re: CP: Impact of card room going into Forest Lake????
 

There will be no impact unless they decide to spread spread-limit and then once everyone realizes how retarded that game is the cardroom will go under.

Re: CP: Impact of card room going into Forest Lake????
 

Yep, all the Indian casinos with spread limit have gone under. And St. Croix never has any NL cash game players.

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There will be no impact unless they decide to spread spread-limit and then once everyone realizes how retarded that game is the cardroom will go under.

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I have found spread limit to be very interesting and profitable because people don't know how to adjust to it and they can't just automatically call max bets like they do at Callerbury.

You people that only play at Callerbury and know only how to play the Callerbury style (wait to hit big hands then bet it, no bluffs, etc...) need to open your minds and maybe except that some of these other local places can be good and offer a different, and in my opinion more challenging type of play than is found at Callerbury 2/4-8/16.

That is kind of the main point of this and my previous posts here. I still like to play at Callerbury once and while but I like to also play at other places with other styles as well.

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I welcome the competition and have enjoyed playing in the other rooms MN and Western Wisconsin have to offer. I also think as players mature and learn more about the game they want more of a challege than the no fold em variety of poker that Callerbury provides.

I know you want to play against loose players who call with hopeless hands but the last few times I have played 6/12 and 8/16 at Callerbury the cold calling and calling down with hopeless hands has reached new extremes. Even if you start with or flop a good hand you have to outlast all the chasers. So you basically wait to flop good hands/draws and hope they outlast the chasers. No bluffing, no raising to protect your hand(they call 2 and 3 bets cold), just hit a good hand and hope it survives at showdown.

You can have good nights playing this way but you can also have incredibly bad, frustrating nights when you miss big draws, get your big pairs cracked repeatedly and such.
I have found I like the moves and excitement of spread limit and no limit more because you can actually make moves, bluff and if people want to call with bad hands and draws they will risk a large portion of their stack to do so.

So I hope the new place has spread limit and I wish we could get real no limit in this state.

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The 8/16 is full of cold-callers, but you are incorrect in saying that you can't make moves or bluff. Yes, the variance in that game is high, but with the proper adjustments the game is pure money.

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So I hope the new place has spread limit and I wish we could get real no limit in this state.

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NL is a death blow. Sure, the games would be phenomenal for a few months, but then the fish lose it all and go away. One of the reasons CP is so good year after year is that limit poker allows bad players to experience some wins while they slowly bleed off their chips.

Selective harvesting of timber and quotas on fishing are both very good ideas for exactly the same reason that limit poker is superior, in the long run, to NL.

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I welcome the competition and have enjoyed playing in the other rooms MN and Western Wisconsin have to offer. I also think as players mature and learn more about the game they want more of a challege than the no fold em variety of poker that Callerbury provides.

I know you want to play against loose players who call with hopeless hands but the last few times I have played 6/12 and 8/16 at Callerbury the cold calling and calling down with hopeless hands has reached new extremes. Even if you start with or flop a good hand you have to outlast all the chasers. So you basically wait to flop good hands/draws and hope they outlast the chasers. No bluffing, no raising to protect your hand(they call 2 and 3 bets cold), just hit a good hand and hope it survives at showdown.

You can have good nights playing this way but you can also have incredibly bad, frustrating nights when you miss big draws, get your big pairs cracked repeatedly and such.
I have found I like the moves and excitement of spread limit and no limit more because you can actually make moves, bluff and if people want to call with bad hands and draws they will risk a large portion of their stack to do so.

So I hope the new place has spread limit and I wish we could get real no limit in this state.

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you clearly do not understand limit hold'em. and it appears you are not fond of dollars.


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Damn, I get all long-winded, then find out the PBob has provided the correct answer much more concisely.

Re: CP: Impact of card room going into Forest Lake????
 

Once again all. I undestand LHE pretty well. I have read SSHE 3 times and I have had many winning nights at 6/12 and 8/16.

I'm not saying that these games are bad. All I'm saying is that if you flop big hands, hit your big draws, and have your big pairs hold up you will have a great night, but if you miss big draws and get big pairs cracked constantly you will have a bad, frustrating night because from what I have seen you can't really bluff or make moves much in these Uber loose games you simply have to have the best hand at showdown most of the time.

I look forward to playing at the new place next year and seeing how the games develop there as well.

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Once again all. I undestand LHE pretty well. I have read SSHE 3 times and I have had many winning nights at 6/12 and 8/16.

I'm not saying that these games are bad. All I'm saying is that if you flop big hands, hit your big draws, and have your big pairs hold up you will have a great night, but if you miss big draws and get big pairs cracked constantly you will have a bad, frustrating night because from what I have seen you can't really bluff or make moves much in these Uber loose games you simply have to have the best hand at showdown most of the time.
I look forward to playing at the new place next year and seeing how the games develop there as well.

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Yep, all the Indian casinos with spread limit have gone under. And St. Croix never has any NL cash game players.



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You cant read. Never said anything about NL and none of those casinos are competing with Cbury. spreadlimit is there is out in the boonies and it is easily the dumbest poker game invented, Imagine playing limit and being allowed to bet bet 10 in a 15-30 game and that is spread limit. Genius. Also, I said that would be competition initially and being tongue in cheek in saying that it would go under after people realize that sl is a stupid game. Obv, people enjoy it for some reason, but it is a poor attempt to mirror NL in places where it is illegal, but it is not even close to NL.

Re: CP: Impact of card room going into Forest Lake????
 

I've never actually played SL in a casino. I would expect there would be extra dollars to be made from people who don't adjust to the spread. Still, I'd rather play straight limit poker.