Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]

Ghost bumper in Mid? But why this thread? hrmm.....



[/ QUOTE ]

that was me. I was stoving it to try to show that I didn't like our equity, but I screwed up the stoving, and decided to just hit the sack instead of redoing it. I'll try again with this hand later today probably.

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
On both turn and river, I don't feel we have a good enough read to not 3-bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

BB is drawing to 2 outs, on the turn MP's raise looks like a chop or spew and at this level would be capable of folding the bottom of his range to a 3-bet. Calling + leading the river keeps the near-dead hands in the pot to keep calling single bets.

On the river MP has quads or chopping or is really retarded.

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

Ghost bumper in Mid? But why this thread? hrmm.....



[/ QUOTE ]

that was me. I was stoving it to try to show that I didn't like our equity, but I screwed up the stoving, and decided to just hit the sack instead of redoing it. I'll try again with this hand later today probably.

[/ QUOTE ]

Snowball, at what point of the hand were you trying to stove?

Re: 97 in the sb
 

joetall,

preflop obv. I think it's a fold. We're OOP with dubious equity.

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
joetall,

preflop obv. I think it's a fold. We're OOP with dubious equity.

[/ QUOTE ]

My guess is that we are at 27%, which is just enough to call in a 2/3. It's actually a "doesn't matter", pure variance decision, IMO.

I'll be right back, gona stove.

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
On both turn and river, I don't feel we have a good enough read to not 3-bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

The point is to get BB to overcall and chop his monies.

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
joetall,

preflop obv. I think it's a fold. We're OOP with dubious equity.

[/ QUOTE ]

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.511% { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }
Hand 1: 28.365% { 97s }
Hand 2: 27.125% { random }

But I guess we should consider the BB folding some hands:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.729% { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }
Hand 1: 26.626% { 97s }
Hand 2: 33.645% { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q3s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, A2o+, K6o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }


So, I was a little light on the Defend/raise side, but this is NoCal poker which is Asian poker, so, maybe not!

It's real close, FWIW I call with 98s here for sure:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.382% { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }
Hand 1: 27.356% { 98s }
Hand 2: 33.262% { 44+, A2s+, K2s+, Q3s+, J6s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, A2o+, K6o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o }

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
On both turn and river, I don't feel we have a good enough read to not 3-bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

The point is to get BB to overcall and chop his monies.

[/ QUOTE ]

DUCY?

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
DUCY?

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry, I'm a newb. What does this mean?

Re: 97 in the sb
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
DUCY?

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry, I'm a newb. What does this mean?

[/ QUOTE ]

i believe DUCY means "Do you see why?"