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kerowo 06-27-2007 04:14 PM

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Good lord, if you want to talk about abortion, talk about abortion. Don't go putting it in some weird hypothetical that as soon as you tie it back to abortion makes people want to kick you in the nuts.

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Speaking of kicking people in the nuts and abortion, what if you could travel back in time to kick Hitler's father in the nuts?

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How do you know someone hasn't already gone back in time and kicked someone else in the nuts and through unintended consequences caused WW2 and through a series of related events, professional wrestling? I couldn't risk it.

Archon_Wing 06-27-2007 04:29 PM

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That is true-- wars have been started over less than a kick in the nuts.

CallMeIshmael 06-27-2007 04:39 PM

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Justin A 06-27-2007 05:12 PM

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I'll cry if anyone doesn't vote for the first one.

SNOWBALL 06-28-2007 01:30 AM

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I'll cry if anyone doesn't vote for the first one.



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nice going genius. Someone spite-voted BTTF 3.

govman6767 06-28-2007 09:58 AM

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I would let Doc go back and do it. Non-existence at that time opens the door for existance later down the road when retarded radical muslims rule the world.

tpir 06-29-2007 02:41 PM

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I love thought experiments and thought this had a lot of potential. The responses thus far lead me to believe otherwise [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Bork 06-29-2007 07:29 PM

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Since you exist to kill him he must fail in preventing you from existing. He wouldn't be merely 'ending your existence' he would be preventing you from ever existing. This is impossible once you already have existed.

You are 100% certain he can do it, but you must be mistaken. It isn't genuine self-defense, but there are mitigating circumstances because you believed (mistakenly) that he was going to 'end your existence'.

jstnrgrs 06-29-2007 09:15 PM

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if the abortion doctor had succeeded in aborting you how are u travelling from the future to prevent your abortion..

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Great Scott!

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It's a pre-destination paradox obv.

vhawk01 06-30-2007 12:37 AM

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You propose an evil villain so dead set on killing you that he invents time travel to do you in and wonder why people give you the business?

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I posed the question because I wanted to gain some insight into how others veiwed "potential people". For instance, if you would choose to aquit a person who "killed Doc Brown in self defense". Would you also choose to aquit someone who traveled from the future to the present in order to kill an abortion doctor in "self defense"?

The entire story is a thought experiment. Thought experiments are allowed to have ridiculous conditions inorder to expidite a thought process. BTW there isn't anything in my post that says Doc Brown specifically created time travel to do someone in. I honestly don't know why Doc Brown invented the time machine. Perhaps its in that movie Back to the Future. If knowing the reason is that important to you go rent the movie, watch it, and report back to us why he invented a time machine. I doubt anyone else is really interested though. Its not really important to the thought experiment.

Stu

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So the 'separate timeline' answer has demonstrated to you the foolishness of the pro-life position, right?


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