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donkmagic 06-22-2007 03:57 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
wow you guys fold queens here? if this isn't levelling you guys must be getting run over.

Poker_is_Hard 06-22-2007 03:58 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
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SilentNoise: Ok, maybe i miscounted the opinions.

Vee Quiva: Which part of our "read" (17/12) tells us what his 3bet range and his double barrel range is?

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I think this is a great point. Does being selective preflop truely tell us how a player will act on the flop, turn, etc...

Is is completely out of line to find a player who is selective preflop, but pushes their hands hard post flop.

Also, imo if I was on the button and the utg player flat call my flop bet, I would read this as a scared over pair and shove the turn, expecting a fold.

joeblack 06-22-2007 03:58 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
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wow you guys fold queens here? if this isn't levelling you guys must be getting run over.

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Dear wise man,

What hands do we beat?

From,

A Nit

Poker_is_Hard 06-22-2007 04:02 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
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wow you guys fold queens here? if this isn't levelling you guys must be getting run over.

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Dear wise man,

What hands do we beat?

From,

A Nit

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77,99,jj,AK,and tie QQ

What hands are we behind, TT, KK, AA

joeblack 06-22-2007 04:04 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
Oh right because 77,99, and possibly even JJ play the hand this way..

NO YOUR AN IDIOT!

Lordy 06-22-2007 04:07 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
I crai flop. Let him decide if his 99-JJ is good.

silly_monkey 06-22-2007 04:11 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
I would C/R AI on the flop. As played, I'm still not sure I can fold the turn. Depends on how aggressive villain is postflop.

Fonkey123 06-22-2007 04:13 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
Bet/call the flop or CRAI.

silly_monkey 06-22-2007 04:23 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
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Oh right because 77,99, and possibly even JJ play the hand this way..

NO YOUR AN IDIOT!

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Aggressive players will SOMETIMES fire two shells with all of those hands and worse. I think this hand really depends on our read of villain, and what we think our image is.

Also, no need to call other people idiots. Very douche bag-ish indeed.

Poker_is_Hard 06-22-2007 04:23 PM

Re: 200nl - QQ - maybe i should stop underrepesenting my hand?
 
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Oh right because 77,99, and possibly even JJ play the hand this way..

NO YOUR AN IDIOT!

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There is a high percentage chance that I am an idiot.

If I could give you some advice, an easier way to get your point across would have been to simply state that you believe the villain has AA or KK and anyone who disagrees with you is a huge moron.

just my humble opinion.


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