Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

I c/f both hands.

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

Why is everyone giving up here?

A huge part of his range folds to a c-bet, especially on weak-tight UB.

A K never checks here in Nath's spot, so why check? (not really *ever*, but were not c/r here so go for the obv. play)

If raised 95% of the time we are drawing to 4 outs, maybe 7, so I think bet/fold is best. Something like 1750 or so.

If called were usually beat too, so unless a J comes c/f.

I am not a great player, but I think we give up too much just giving up here, especially on UB.

This isn't a cash game where we are trying to play perfect poker, this is a tourney where we are trying to win pots, and this one is very winnable.

Regards,
Woodguy

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

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Why is everyone giving up here?

A huge part of his range folds to a c-bet, especially on weak-tight UB.

A K never checks here in Nath's spot, so why check? (not really *ever*, but were not c/r here so go for the obv. play)

If raised 95% of the time we are drawing to 4 outs, maybe 7, so I think bet/fold is best. Something like 1750 or so.

If called were usually beat too, so unless a J comes c/f.

I am not a great player, but I think we give up too much just giving up here, especially on UB.

This isn't a cash game where we are trying to play perfect poker, this is a tourney where we are trying to win pots, and this one is very winnable.

Regards,
Woodguy

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I think pretty decent chances to win the pot by checking against a random opponent. I think low pairs will often check and then fold to a turn bet, even if we don't improve. Meanwhile hands that are stronger than an underpair here are going to have a difficult time folding this flop.

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

c/f is right, woodguy what hands in his PF range are folding this flop besides AQ AJ and 88 which is very little of his range.

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

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c/f is right, woodguy what hands in his PF range are folding this flop besides AQ AJ and 88 which is very little of his range.

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22-77?

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

All other pocket pairs or lower suited connectors, which is the majority of his range. I find cold calling with dominated hands like KQ/KJ/QJ more rare in the $200+ unless there were a lot of satelitte entries.

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

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All other pocket pairs or lower suited connectors, which is the majority of his range. I find cold calling with dominated hands like KQ/KJ/QJ more rare in the $200+ unless there were a lot of satelitte entries.

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A dude calls for almost 20% of his stack preflop and you're assuming that small pairs and suited connectors are a MAJORITY of his range?

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

Pre-flop:

Tony Pisser raises to 925. hyeran kim folds.
rockets_Ifold folds. PecosJeana folds. blury222
folds. JohnnyBax goes all-in for 7260. Maria Nuccia
folds. G S X R folds. RagnarPirate folds.
Ulty_Dude folds. Tony Pisser calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

JohnnyBax shows Ah Ks.
Tony Pisser shows 7d 7h.


Flop (board: 8h Qd Td):

(no action in this round)


Turn (board: 8h Qd Td As):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 8h Qd Td As 7c):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

JohnnyBax has Ah Ks Qd Td As: a pair of aces.
Tony Pisser has 7d 7h Qd As 7c: three sevens.


Hand #42568696-163 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
Tony Pisser wins 15220 with three sevens.



I was surprised to see 77.

Bax

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

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A dude calls for almost 20% of his stack preflop and you're assuming that small pairs and suited connectors are a MAJORITY of his range?

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Pairs QQ and smaller are the majority of his range. Throw in a couple of connectors too, but not that many.

Is dude calling off 20% of his stack with KQ or KJ?

Re: AQ on coordinated flop, UB $215
 

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Pre-flop:

Tony Pisser raises to 925. hyeran kim folds.
rockets_Ifold folds. PecosJeana folds. blury222
folds. JohnnyBax goes all-in for 7260. Maria Nuccia
folds. G S X R folds. RagnarPirate folds.
Ulty_Dude folds. Tony Pisser calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

JohnnyBax shows Ah Ks.
Tony Pisser shows 7d 7h.


Flop (board: 8h Qd Td):

(no action in this round)


Turn (board: 8h Qd Td As):

(no action in this round)


River (board: 8h Qd Td As 7c):

(no action in this round)




Showdown:

JohnnyBax has Ah Ks Qd Td As: a pair of aces.
Tony Pisser has 7d 7h Qd As 7c: three sevens.


Hand #42568696-163 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
Tony Pisser wins 15220 with three sevens.



I was surprised to see 77.

Bax

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The point is that I'm not surprised to see AK.